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Twin boys born about 1930

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2018 14:41

First name(s) COLIN ARTHUR
Last name HUGHES
Gender Male
Birth day 2
Birth month 3
Birth year 1933
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 2003
District Birkenhead
District number 0371C
Register number C16C
Entry number 054
Date of registration mm/yy 1003
County Cheshire


First name(s) BARRY WILLIAM
Last name HUGHES
Gender Male
Birth day 2
Birth month 3
Birth year 1933
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1992
District Birkenhead
Register number 792
County Cheshire
Volume 37
Page 625

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2018 14:28

Deaths Mar 1976 (>99%)
HOWARD MARY MAUD 13SE1881 WALLASEY 37 1331

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2018 14:25

Marriages Mar 1948 (>99%)

Doherty Edward Howard Wallasey 10a 1336
Howard Lilian A Doherty Wallasey 10a 1336

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2018 14:20

Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%)
HOWARD Lucy HUGHES Birkenhead 8a 1355
HUGHES William M HOWARD Birkenhead 8a 1355

Twin boys on this record!!!!!!!!!!!

Hughes Household (6 People)
33 Belvidere Road , Wallasey C.B., Cheshire, England
Lucy Hughes (Howard) 07 May 1905 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 208 2
William M Hughes 22 Apr 1900 Male British Work Labourer Heavy Worker Married 208 1
Barry W Hughes 02 Mar 1933 Male At School Single 208 3
Colin A Hughes 02 Mar 1933 Male At School Single 208 4
Mary M Haward 13 Sep 1881 Female Office Cleaner Widowed 208 5
Lilian A Doherty (Haward) 20 Oct 1919 Female Punch Machine Operator Single 208 6

Also proves Lilian was Arthur and Mary's child

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Mar 2018 13:27

Possibly a further child for Arthur and Mary

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Howard Lilian A Butler Birkenhead 8a 1047

From Cheshire BMD

HOWARD Lilian Alice Wallasey Wirral WAL/138/29

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Mar 2018 12:55

1881

Name: Wm. Butler
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizh. Butler
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 48 Skirving Street
Marital Status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Furnaceman Iron Foundry
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3595
Folio: 73
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm. Butler 45
Elizh. Butler 32
Peter Butler 10
Sarah E. Butler 2
Ivy Butler 1 (Mary) badly written record

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Mar 2018 12:50

1891

Name: Mary M Butler
Gender: Female
Age: 11
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1880
Father: Wm Butler
Mother: Elizabeth Butler
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Poulton with Seacombe
Residence Place: Poulton with Seacombe, Cheshire, England
Sub registration district: Wallasey
ED, Institution or Vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2896
Folio: 59
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Butler 58 born Derbyshire
Elizabeth Butler 40
Sarah E Butler 13
Mary M Butler 11
Mabel Butler 6
Louisa H E Butler 3



BUTLER, SARAH ELIZABETH SIMPSON Order
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 304 Order

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Mar 2018 12:21

HOWARD, LUCY BUTLER Order
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 580


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
41 Scott St Liscard Cheshire, Liscard, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Arthur Howard Head Married Male 28 1883 Wallasey Ches Electrical Lamp Trimmer Transcription
Mary Maud Howard Wife Married Female 29 1882 Liverpool Lanc - Transcription
Arthur Francis Howard Son Single Male 4 1907 Liscard Ches - Transcription
Lucy Howard Daughter Single Female 6 1905 Liscard Ches - Transcription
Elizabeth Ann Hughes Boarder Single Female 28 1883 Birkenhead Ches Domestic

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Mar 2018 12:17

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
53, Scott Street, Liscard, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

Elizabeth Butler Head Widow Female 56 1845 Chester, Cheshire, England Nurse (Monthly) Transcription
Mary M Butler Daughter Single Female 21 1880 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Laundress Transcription
Louisa Butler Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Liverpool, Lancashire, England


BUTLER, MARY MAUD SIMPSON Order
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TEXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 35


Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)
BUTLER Mary Maud HOWARD Arthur Liscard, St. Mary's Church (Manor Lane) Wirral C3/2/104

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Mar 2018 19:40

If the marriage occurs before the first 2 months in 1911, then you can check on one or more censuses after the marriage to see if the information given matches the person you are looking for.

Look on censuses for the children with parents.

If they were born in Lancashire, check that Lancs opc site to see if there is a baptism, then use the same site and freebmd to identify the parent's marriag

If you do not have a sub to ancestry or findmypast, ask on here if anyone can find a baptism, or marriage ........... both site carry parish records for areas, coverage might be spotty.

Linda

Linda Report 28 Mar 2018 18:36

Hi, Yes I have looked at that but its difficult because you do not know when, where or who they marry and ones like Sarah Butler who I looked up there are lots of that name! I cannot find who her mum and dad are unless I buy lots of different certificates or am I wrong? Actually I have just found a marriage for a Sarah to a Laurence Curran! which is the surname of Sarahs mums first marriage so will look into that!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Mar 2018 18:09

you can also use lancs opc for Parish records, they do have a few as late as 1930, or lancs bmd from July 1 1837

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

and of course the new GRO Index which has added mmn to birth registrations from July 1 1837 to about 1919 .............. the absence of mmn indicates the child was illegitimate (ie mother's surname same as child's). You have to registe to use the site or to order certificates, but it is free

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/


There is also cheshire bmd

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2018 17:49

Start by looking on freebmd for the marriages of her sisters - then follow through on the same site for offspring.

Linda

Linda Report 28 Mar 2018 17:36

Hi everyone, just back and able to do some more family history! I still think the twins are something to do with Butler family as the ladies do look like each other in the photos I have. I need to know who married Louisa Butlers sisters and then the children they have and one of those sisters could be the twins grandparents! Their brother Peter was only a half brother and his dads surname was Curran so again he could be the twins grandfather. I have had a bit of a look but still cannot find the twins who might have been born around 1930ish and they could have been born in the Liverpool, Lancashire, Cheshire or Durham areas! :-)

Linda

Linda Report 22 Jan 2018 18:56

Yes I have realised that I should have said they would be the twins grandparents!

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Jan 2018 18:50

Linda, unless I'm misreading, if the dates your giving for births of Louisa'a sister is correct 1877 to 1884 its unlikely that any of them would be having twins in 1930. ??



Linda

Linda Report 22 Jan 2018 18:44

Hi, just to say that the twins are not Paul and Peter Butler! I am now trying to get in touch with Robert Green who also has a tree on here and ive noticed that he has some of the Butler girls on my tree! They are Louisa's sisters, Sarah born 1879, Mary Maude born 1881, Mabel born 1884 and the first child I have with these sisters is Peter born 1869/71. If anyone knows any of these sisters they might be the ones who had the twins that I am looking for but I am finding it difficult to find who they all might have married apart from our Louisa who married Stephen Andrews.

Linda

Linda Report 19 Jan 2018 20:09

Thanks for your info Nyx which I do know about as Frederick Simpson Andrews was my father in law! I have more info on one of the twins which I will try and get in touch with.
Thanks also to SylviainCanada and I might have found one of the twins who might still be alive.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Jan 2018 17:52

Anyone born in 1930 could still be alive .........

........ I have relatives born in 1926, 1928, 1930 and 1932 who are still very much alive and kicking!

Please be careful as this is NOT a safe site. Anything you post on here can (and often is) on the world wide web within minutes.

Rambling

Rambling Report 19 Jan 2018 15:49

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
53 Scott St Liscard Cheshire, Liscard, Cheshire, England

Stephen Thomas Andrews Head Married Male 27 1884 Lancashire Widnes House Painter
Louisa Andrews Wife Married Female 23 1888 Lancashire Liverpool
Frederick Simpson Andrews Son Single Male 3 1908 Cheshire Wallasey -
Elisabeth Butler Mother In Law Widow Female 67 1844 Cheshire Chester - Albert Hutchinson Boarder Single Male 21 1890 Lancashire Manchester Old Trafford Grocer's Assistant