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Just noticed I put John Patchett age 15 Bradford on the 1871 census in Durham when it should have been 20 with John and Maria Mellor.


Maria Patchett married John Mellor Bradford A/M/J 1861 her Uncle??

Maryb.

Quote:
'I looked at the will you mentioned, no family named. Do you think it will reveal more.'

How do you know that no family are named - I do not understand.

Found the 1841
Haughten lancashire
Jno Patchet 30 a hatter not born in County
Sarah 25 born in county
Mary 7
Maria 6.

No Sarah,so wether the John in 1871 Durham is your John is any bodys guess.But John and Sarah nee Mellor didn't have son John 1851 so who did he belong to?

Maryb.

this gets more confusing. Has the spelling changed from patchett to pagett as per lukes baptism. Found a possible father
Thomas Padget
Gender Male
Baptism Date 10 Feb 1782
Baptism Place Idle,York,England
Father Thomas Padget
FHL Film Number 990547
Household Members
Name Age
Thomas Padget

thank you mary but i think it is a different john as mine married in 1872 in Bradford
Maddie

that would make him 22 if he married 1803.
Thomas Padget

Yorkshire, Bishop's Transcripts Of Baptisms First name(s) Thomas Last name Padget Baptism year 1782 Birth year - County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Baptism place Calverley Mother's first name(s) - Father's first name(s) Thomas

This is John Patchett in Durham 1871 as a visitor at the Mellor household.He is related to them!

John Patchett of Yorkshire 1811 married Sarah Mellor 1813 born Ashton Lancashire
They had daughter Maria in Denton Lancs @ 1836 and George 1850 in Horton Bradford.

1851 Horton Bradford
John Patchell 1811 and family + George 8months

1861 Bradford.
John Patchell and family + John Mellor 1808 Ashton Lancs

1871 Durham
John and Maria Mellor + John Patchett 20
Emily M Mellor
Sarah Emily Mellor
John Edward Mellor

1881 Bradford
Geo Patchett 30
Sarah E Mellor 1864 Durham Neice
John E Mellor 1867 Northumberland Nephew.

On looking at the baptism for the Joseph Patchett by spinster Sarah in 1857 the birth looks more like 1853 not 1855 in my opinion.


I haven't yet found John Patchett and Sarah nee Mellor in 1841 to see if they had a daughter Sarah.

Maryb.

???



Luke Padgett
England Deaths and Burials
Name Luke Padgett
Gender Male
Burial Date 14 Nov 1872
Burial Place Birkenshaw, York, England

Posting this in case it turns out to be relevant - he would only have been approx. 18 when Luke was born, assuming baptism was soon after birth:

Thomas Patchett
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Thomas Patchett
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 4 Mar 1787
Baptism Place: Bradford,York,England
Father: Joshua Patchett
FHL Film Number: 990533


Or another (but probably even younger) possibility:

Thomas Patchett
in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
Name: Thomas Patchett
Event Type: Christening (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 15 Jun 1788
Baptism Place: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral), Yorkshire, England
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father: Ambrose Patchett


EDIT:

This one more likely re age:


Thomas Patchett
England Births and Christenings
Name Thomas Patchett
Gender Male
Christening Date 03 Apr 1768
Christening Date (Original) 03 APR 1768
Christening Place BRADFORD,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Patchett

The image of that record says "Luke, son of Thomas Padgett of Birkenshay, weaver."

Birkenshay will be Birkenshaw, so looks like the right baptism.
(Per the 1851 and 1861 censuses posted earlier by Patchem.)

hi patchem
Itink I have found Lukes baptism slightly different spelling but thats not unusual.
I looked at the will you mentioned, no family named. Do you think it will reveal more.

Here is the baptism I THINK
Luke Padgett
Event Type Christening
Baptism Date 14 Apr 1805
Baptism Place Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral), Yorkshire, England
Parish Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father Thomas Padgett
Household Members
Name Age
Luke Padgett
Thomas Padgett

MADDIE

What about applying for the will that I referred to?

Maddie,
I think what you have put is the 'right track' because it was what I had posted.

thamks ArgllGran
bit of a conundrum

neither child with sarah and henry in 1861

and now one step back
cannot find a baptism for luke
maddie :-)

Still can't see John anywhere in 1861.

Henry doesn't seem to have married Sarah.

Possibility for Henry's death:

Deaths Jun 1877 (>99%)
Jennings Henry 39 Bradford, Y. 9b 163

I don't see him conclusively in censuses after 1871.

thank you all for replying
have looked at Joe
his baptism in Bradford has no father but just Sarah a spinster

Joe Patchett
Age: 2
Birth Date: 15 Jan 1855
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1857
Baptism Place: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral), Yorkshire, England
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Search Photos: Search for 'Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Patchett
Mother: Sarah Patchett

if this is
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
50 Kershaw St Bradford, Bradford, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Joe Patchett Head Married Male 56 1855 Stanningley Labourer
Transcription
Mary Patchett Wife Married Female 55 1856 Windill Home
Transcription
Willie Patchett Son Single Male 23 1888 Farsley Striker
Transcription
Flory Patchett Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Farsley Spinnerhim in 1911

married 32 years

his marriage ???

Name: Joseph Patchett
Marriage Age: 24
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1855
Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1879
Marriage Place: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral), Yorkshire, England
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Search Photos: Search for 'Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Luke Patchett -------- ??? his grandfather
Spouse: Mary Riley

and 1871

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sapgate Lane, Thornton, Bradford, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding) & Lincolnshire, England



Birth place First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation
Yorkshire, England Henry Jennings Head - Male 34 1837 -
Transcription
Yorkshire, England Sarah Jennings Wife - Female 35 1836 -
Transcription
Yorkshire, England Joe Patchett Son - Male 15 1856

can anyone please see a marriage for Henry Jennings
and where is john ???

do you think this is the right track

Maddie

Luke Patchett or Padtchett, foundryman, who died in 1863, (Kirkstall, age 57) left a will. Worth investigating?

Luke and Mary do have a daughter Sarah in 1851:

1851 England Census
Name: Luke Patchell [Luke Patchett] Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Relation: Head
Where born: Birkenshaw, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bramley
Occupation: Innkeeper
Registration district: Hunslet Sub-registration district: Kirkstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Household schedule number: 77 Piece: 2315 Folio: 14 Page Number: 20
Luke Patchell 45 Birkenshaw
Mary Patchell 43 Bradford
Nanny Patchell 23
Thomas Patchell 17
Sarah Patchell 15 worsted weaver Pudsey
Mary Patchell 11
Luke Patchell 6
Elizabeth Patchell 4
James Colburn 23 servant
Class: HO107; Piece: 2315; Folio: 14; Page: 20; GSU roll: 87534-87535

There is a Joseph Patchett in 1861, recorded as son, but could be grandson?

Father's name: Lake Patchett
Mother's name: Mary Patchett
Gender: Male
Where born: Bramley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bramley (near Leeds) Ecclesiastical parish: Bramley Town: Stanningley
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Hunslet Sub-registration district: Kirkstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 75 Piece: 3355 Folio: 54 Page Number: 15
Lake Patchett 55 iron foundry labourer
Mary Patchett 52
Mary Patchett 22
Elizabeth Patchett 15
Joseph Patchett 6
Class: RG 9; Piece: 3355; Folio: 54; Page: 15; GSU roll: 543119

In 1861 census looks like Henry and Sarah are married in Baildon, both 25, no children showing.

Joe Patchett (15) in 1871 is the son of Henry and Sarah Jennings(35, Stanningley).

This looks like a brother for him:
Joe Patchett
Age: 2
Birth Date: 15 Jan 1855
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1857
Baptism Place: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral), Yorkshire, England
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Living in Stanningley
Father: Patchett
Mother: Sarah Patchett

This might be his birth, but why Hunslet?

PATCHETT, JOE -
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in HUNSLET Volume 09B Page 224

Order:
PATCHETT, JOHN WILLIAM
Mother's Maiden Surname:
-

GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in BRADFORD AND NORTH BIERLEY YORKSHIRE Volume 23