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Valerie Sylvia

Valerie Sylvia Report 9 Mar 2018 18:46

Thank you all so much for the replies. I will go through all this info. over the weekend.
5 children: Arthur born 1908 Gladys Elizabeth born 1910 Charles born 1911
Stanley born 1914 died 1919 and Georgina born 1916
Have traced my granddad died 1916 in France in action

Once again thank you to everyone that replied

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Mar 2018 18:45

(below is address for Ellen on 1907 Marriage...(Palmer there 1907 London Electoral (Ancestry)

Chris :)

1901 (Find My Past)
Albert Palmer Head Married Male 23 1878 Deptford, Kent, England General Laborer
Elizabeth H Palmer Wife Married Female 24 1877 Greenwich, Kent, England -
Lily E Palmer Daughter Single Female 3 1898 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England -
Albert W R Palmer Son Single Male 2 1899 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England -
Florence M Palmer Daughter Single Female 1 1900 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England -
Sarah Sutherland Sister-In-Law Single Female 12 1889 Greenwich, Kent, England
Alfred W Palmer Brother Widower Male 34 1867 Dorchester, Dorset, England Navvy
48, Rotherhithe New Road, Rotherhithe, St Olave Southwark, London & Surrey,


1911 (Find My Past)
Albert Palmer Head Married Male 34 1877 Greenwich Labourer Ber Bor Council
Elizabeth Palmer Wife Married Female 35 1876 Greenwich Kent -
Lily Palmer Daughter - Female 13 1898 Rotherhithe -
Albert Palmer Son - Male 12 1899 Rotherhithe School
George Palmer Son - Male 9 1902 Rotherhithe School
Gladys Palmer Daughter - Female 3 1908 Rotherhithe Surrey School
John Moreton Boarder Widdwer Male 68 1843 Colney Heath Herts Dock Labourer
Caroline Clements Boarder Widow Female 59 1852 Rotherhithe Surrey Wood Binder
48 Rotherhithe New Road, Bermondsey, London & Surrey
(says Married 14yrs, 6 children born, 4 living, 2 died)


Birth
PALMER, LILY ELIZABETH (SUNDERLAND)
GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in ST. OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 307

Birth
PALMER, GLADYS (SUTHERLAND)
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in ST OLAVE BERMONDSEY Volume 01D Page 252


Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
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Palmer Matthew Albert G Greenwich 1d 1743
Sutherland Elizabeth Harriett Greenwich 1d 1743

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Mar 2018 18:31

Not getting anywhere but i think the Smith/Hadlow births might be to this marriage so probably not connected?

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
Hadlow Amelia Maria Hollingbourn 2a 981
Smith George Hollingbourn 2a 981

The only other thing is that the witness to marriage of George and Ellen, Charles T Tight born Hackney, married in Southwark and son named after him born Greenwich 1910.

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Mar 2018 17:09

?? Also from GRO

SMITH, ELLEN HADLOW Order
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in MEDWAY Volume 02A Page 579

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Mar 2018 16:50

? from GRO

SMITH, ELLEN HARDING Order
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1078

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Mar 2018 16:45

(no idea on below!, just saw it!)

Chris :)

County Kent
Place (with link) Erith
Church Christ Church
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Register entry number 113
Baptism date 13 Dec 1888
Person forename Ellen
Father forename Charles
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname JOBSON-SMITH
Person abode Arthur Street, Erith
Father occupation Labourer

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(also has some Deptford, not seeing an Ellen)

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Mar 2018 16:35

Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Lambert Georgina Smith Southwark 1d 132

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Mar 2018 16:34

Gladys E Lambert on the 1939 Register
1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION

Lambert Household (3 People)
85 Armstead Walk , Dagenham M.B., Essex, England

Gladys E Lambert 01 Apr 1910 Female Chain Stores Head Stockroom Assistant Single 232 2
Ellen Lambert 06 Nov 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 232 1
Georgina Lambert 24 Nov 1916 Female Asbestos Pipe Maker Single 232 3

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Mar 2018 16:33


First name(s) Arthur George
Last name Lambert
Birth year -
Baptism year 1908
Baptism date 1908 Nov 15
Place Rotherhithe
County Surrey
Country England
Father's first name(s) George Arthur
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Source Rotherhithe St Barnabas 1872-1910 baptisms
Record set Thames & Medway Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Rob Cottrell, Trueflare Limited

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Mar 2018 16:32

Thames & Medway Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) Gladys Elizabeth
Last name Lambert
Birth year 1910
Birth date ? ? 1910
Baptism year 1910
Baptism date 15 May 1910
Place Deptford
County Kent
Country England
Father's first name(s) Arthur George
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Source St.Pauls Deptford 1895-1910 baptisms
Record set Thames & Medway Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Mar 2018 16:28

Nice one, Nyx

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Mar 2018 16:23

???

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14 Sayes Street Deptford S E, St Paul Deptford, London & Kent, England

G A Lambert Head Married Male 29 1882 Rotherhithe Surrey General Labourer Transcription
N ( Nellie?) Lambert Wife Married Female 24 1887 Deptford Kent -

married 4 years 2 children not listed?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Mar 2018 16:23

Struggling to find any of the family in 1911

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Mar 2018 16:10

LAMBERT, ARTHUR GEORGE SMITH Order
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in ST OLAVE BERMONDSEY Volume 01D Page 229

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Mar 2018 16:08

(from Ancestry, London Marriages. Age 20, Spinster, her Father Charles Smith, occ. Dock Labourer, her Residence, 48, Rotherhithe New Road, wits. Charles Thomas Tight, Daisy Bachelor)

Chris :)

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Mar 2018 16:04

Thames & Medway Marriages Transcription
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Record set Thames & Medway Marriages
First name(s) George Arthur
Last name Lambert
Marriage year 1907
Spouse's first name(s) Ellen
Spouse's last name Smith
County Surrey
Country England
Place Rotherhithe
Marriage date 1907 Dec 1
Source Rotherhithe St Barnabas marriages groom 1874-1910
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain


Are you certain on the 5 children to marriage?

EDIT sorry added wrong one!

alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Mar 2018 16:04

Their marriage for reference.

Record set Thames & Medway Marriages
First name(s) George Arthur
Last name Lambert
Marriage year 1907
Spouse's first name(s) Ellen
Spouse's last name Smith
County Surrey
Country England
Place Rotherhithe
Marriage date 1907 Dec 1
Source Rotherhithe St Barnabas marriages groom 1874-1910

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Mar 2018 16:03

Where was all this?...can you give all details from 1907 Marriage Cert.to help...

Chris :)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Mar 2018 16:02

As you have the marriage cert, you will know whether she named a father

For our info re location

Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)

LAMBERT George Arthur St. Olave 1d 464
SMITH Ellen St. Olave 1d 464

Valerie Sylvia

Valerie Sylvia Report 9 Mar 2018 15:57

Hi everyone
Started building my family tree some years ago then because of health
circumstances had to stop. This all seems very new to me again. Apologies if I am posting in the wrong place. Can anyone tell me if looking for ancestors by the name of Smith (seems to be millions of them) is it like "looking for a needle in a haystack"
I want to trace my grandmothers family tree.
The information I have is she was born in 1887
Married to George Arthur Lambert, born 1881 died 1916
They were married in 1907 (I have copy of marriage cert)
I also have George Lambert birth cert and death cert
They had 5 children I have all birth dates.
I have gone way back in the Lambert family but would now like to know more about my grandmothers family. As the name Smith was so common do you have any tips on how I can do this? Many thanks in advance if anyone can help
The 5 children they had are all dead