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(looks to be below 1841)

Chris :)

1841 (Find My Past)
John Murray Male 42 1799 Ireland (Stone Mason)
Mary Murray Female 40 1801 Ireland
Thomas Murray Male 25 1816 Ireland (Stone Mason)
Edward Murray Male 20 1821 Ireland (Stone Mason)
Michael Murray Male 15 1826 Ireland (Stone Mason app.)
Patrick Murray Male 10 1831 Middlesex, England
Mary Murray Female 14 1827 Middlesex, England
Thomas Morris Male 50 1791 Middlesex, England
York Buildings, St John the Evangelist, Westminster, London & Middlesex,


(looking at 1875 Marriage image (Ancestry, London) would say F Braithwaite and Fanny Braithwaite)


Below was Nephew...(image on FMP, occ. Stone Mason, Father, Francis Braithwaite occ. Lighterman)

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
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BRAITHWAITE Francis William St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 616
Ring Sarah Boyle St Geo H Sq 1a 616

AustinQ, Nyx & Chris remarkable research with name variants & 2 census entries. Still leaves me with marriage cert for Edward (GRO 1875 QS vol 01D page 704) with his age 23 (b.1851/2) stone mason Father's name Edward Murray dec. stone mason. But witnesses G Braithwaite, Fanny Braithwaite. So got to be same Edward but father entered incorrectly should be Michael.
Many thanks
Sheila

That's great Chris- that burial (with address) brings it all nicely together.

Edit: FMP also has burial for their child James on 24th Jan 1849- age 8 months, address Vine Street.

No idea on anything!, but 1853 Margaret Murray Death, her Burial (Westminster Burials FMP) 7th Jan. 33 Vine Street, as 1851 posted, age 3mths)

Chris :)

(on 1845 Marriage image (FMP) Francis William Braithwaite/Mary Murray, her Father, John Murray, occ. Mason. Wits. John Murray, M Murray. Francis, Widower, Father, Francis, occ. Waterman)

(Francis first Marriage, 1833 Westminster, Ellen Sherridan. 1841 Census, Westminster)


Birth
BRAITHWAITE, FRANCIS WILLIAM (SHERRIDAN)
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01 Page 388

Ah yes, thanks Nyx. That makes sense now. :)

a couple of possible's for James?

MURRAY, JAMES 1 Order
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in SAINT JAMES WESTMINSTER Volume 01 Page 76

Austin , this may be the death for margaret?

MURRAY, MARGARET 0 Order
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 163

Sorry- had a visitor. Still looking it this:

Marriage:
Name: Michael Murray (mason)
Abode: 24 Lambeth Walk
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 10 May 1847
Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: John Murray (mason)
Spouse: Jane Attridge
Abode: 19 Lambeth Walk
Spouse father: James Attridge (deceased) labourer
Register Type: Parish Register
Both of full age
Witnesses: ? Gawlor & Elizabeth Powell
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But then these possible births also?

MURRAY, JAMES ATTRIDGE
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01 Page 421

MURRAY, MARGARET ATTRIDGE
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 217

EDIT no not this one!
Possible for Jane Attridge?

London, Docklands And East End Baptisms

First name(s) Jane
Last name Attridge
Birth year 1828
Birth date 10/09/1828
Baptism year 1835
Baptism date 08 Jul 1835
Address 6 New Street
Father's first name(s) William
Father's occupation Coal Whipper
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Parish St Paul, Shadwell
Church address The Highway
County Middlesex
Country England
Record set London, Docklands And East End Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

So, although the age is out, is it Michael (Mary's son)- has he been added on the 1851 census twice? Both born in Ireland, both Stonemasons, both married.

I think the family were from Clonmel too.

I think it might be :-)

Nyx- I was just going to ask the same. Thought it looked like Clunmell- so Clonmel could be right

Austin Q can you make out the place in Ireland? maybe Clonmel?

Yes- snap. Except the original gives Mickle as born in Ireland

Snap AustinQ :-)

?

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Great Charlotte Street Blackfriars Road, Christchurch, St Saviour Southwark, London & Surrey, England


Mickle Murrey Head Married Male 22 1829 Stonemason Clennell, Northumberland, England Transcription
Jane Murrey Wife Married Female 22 1829 - Westminster, Surrey, England Transcription
Edward Murrey Son - Male 1 1850 - Christchurch, Surrey, England

Wondered if this was the Murray/ Attridge birth (image is difficult to read):

Name: Edwd Murray
Age: 16 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: Mettle Murray
Mother's name: Jane Murray
Gender: Male
Where born: Christchurch, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Southwark Christ Church
Town: Surrey
County/Island: Surrey
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household schedule number: 258
Piece: 1557
Folio: 155
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Mettle Murray 22 Stonemason Ireland
Jane Murray 22 Surrey
Edwd Murray 16 Mo Christchurch, Surrey

Not the Murray/ Dearlove birth- this is them in 1861:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Pundersons Gardens, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England

John Murray Head Married Male 50 1811 Card Cutter Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Harriet Murray Wife Married Female 51 1810 Silk Winder Reading, Berkshire, England
Thomas G Murray Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Mattress Maker Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Sophia Murray Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 Silk Winder Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Arthur Murray Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Card Cutter Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Edwin Murray Son Unmarried Male 9 1852 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Thanks Nyx & Maddie. I will follow these up . The Murray, Edward Attridge 1850 & Michael marriage to Jane Attredge looks a possibility despite difference in birth year.

1871

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Purbeck Place, St John the Evangelist, St George Hanover Square, London &
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Murray Boarder - Male 55 1816 - Ireland
Transcription
Edward Murray Boarder - Male 19 1852 - Surrey, England

1881
41, Page Street, St Margaret and St John the Evangelist Westminster, St George Hanover Square, London & Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward Murray Head Married Male 30 1851 Lambeth, Surrey, England Stone Mason
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Emma Murray Wife Married Female 25 1856 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England -
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Joseph Potter Brother In Law Single Male 24 1857 Winchester, Hampshire, England Laborer
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David Potter Brother In Law Single Male 15 1866 Stanley, Staffordshire, England Errand Boy
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Lyssie Potter Sister In L Single Female 17 1864 Stanley, Staffordshire, England Domestic Servant

both say Surrey