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George Wride

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helina

helina Report 27 Mar 2018 11:35

I have received a marriage certificate between George Wride age 20 Sawyer, and Sarah Jane New, age 20. Year 1855 married in Clifton Bristol. Bit of a shock as the father's name is George Wride, sawyer. I always thought that George, junior's father was called Daniel and his mother Mary Christopher. I have searched ancestry and can find no George with George as his father, plenty of information on Daniel with a son called George. Where to go next as his birth was pre 1837. There is a marriage entry on familysearch again naming George Wride as the father but no birth of young George.

Any help would be appreciated

helina

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2018 11:55

For our info - this is the family you believe are yours?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tylers Street, St Philip & Jacob Without, Clifton, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Daniel Wride Male 25 1816 ** listed as a Sawyer
Mary Wride Female 25 1816
George Wride Male 6 1835
Victoria Wride Female 3 1838
Eliza Wride Female 1 1840
William Richards Male 15 1826

All born out of County

the only other Wride family showing with a George about the right age are in and from Somerset. Head of family James b c 1792-1796. In Mark, Axbridge, Somerset

Can you post all details from the marriage certificate please, to see if any clues.

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2018 12:11

It certainly appears that Daniel was marrried to a Christopher

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

WRIDE, VICTORIA ANN CHRISTOPHER Order
GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION Volume 11 Page 280

WRIDE, ELIZA CHRISTOPHER Order
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION Volume 11 Page 263

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2018 12:22

Just following the family through - mistranscribed 1851, but from a poorly written original!

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
20, Princes Street, St Philip & St Jacob (Without), Clifton, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Daniel Wide Head Married Male 35 1816 Sawyer Hanham, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Wide Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Pentlow, Essex, England
George Wide Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
John Reese Visitor Unmarried Male 13 1838 Portillion's Son Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
Ann Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1841 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Harriett Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1845 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Susan Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 0 1851 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Could the vicar at George's marriage have just made a mistake and written his name in the Father's slot too ????

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 27 Mar 2018 12:32

In case you don't have this......

George Wride in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: George Wride
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 14 Aug 1836
Baptism Place: St. Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father: Daniel Wride
Mother: Mary

I have the same thoughts as GreyGhost about the vicar making a mistake on the marriage record.

Rambling

Rambling Report 27 Mar 2018 12:39

I agree with Greyghost, looks like a mistake.

WRIDE, DANIEL 49 Order
GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 30

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2018 12:42

Another version of the Baptism posted by PH - shows George to be 1 month old at the time

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription

First name(s) George
Last name Wride
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1836
Baptism date 14 Aug 1836
Baptism age 1M
Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England
Place Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Daniel
Father's last name Wride
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -

helina

helina Report 27 Mar 2018 14:22

Greyghost. here goes

Marriage solemnized at the parish church in the parish of ?? cannot understand the writing, in the city of Bristol. Married on the 15th July 1855
George Wride age 20, bachelor, Sawyer, Stokes Croft, father George Wride Sawyer
Sarah Jane New age 20, spinster, Stoke Croft, father Stephen New Blacksmith


Witnesses John Lackhurst ?

Emma Evans

helina

helina Report 27 Mar 2018 14:25

I have Victoria Ann Wride's birth certificate and her parents certainly are Daniel and Mary Wride

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Mar 2018 07:38

As Daniel below...

Chris :)

14 May 1842 - Bristol Times and Mirror - Bristol, Bristol, England

Accidents.
May 12 - Daniel Wride aged 26, and H. Oram aged 21, were engaged at the scaffold sawpits of the Exeter Railway Company in Temple Mead, and while assisting to raise through the medium of the crane, a heavy piece of timber, on the top of the sawpit, the chains by which it was suspended, suddenly gave way, and the huge mass fell with great force upon the two men, producing fracture of the thigh bone of the former, and a similar fracture of the thigh of the latter.
We are informed that both men are doing well.


(perhaps him below)

1851 (Find My Past)
Henry Oram Lodger - Male 28 1823 Sawyer Somerset, England
16, Great James Street, St James, Bristol, Gloucestershire,


(the 'other' George)

Baptism
County Somerset
Place Mark
Church name (with link) St Mark
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Register entry number 1291
Baptism date 23 Apr 1837
Person forename George
Person sex m
Father forename James
Mother forename Mary
Father surname WRIDE
Person abode Mark
Father occupation Labourer

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


1841 (Find My Past)
Steven New Male 40 1801 (Smith)
Mary New Female 40 1801
William New Male 20 1821
Mary New Female 15 1826
Emma New Female 15 1826 Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth New Female 10 1831 Gloucestershire, England
Eliza New Female 10 1831 Gloucestershire, England
John New Male 9 1832 Gloucestershire, England
Sarah New Female 5 1836 Gloucestershire, England
York Street, St Philip & Jacob Without, Clifton, Gloucestershire,


1851
Steven New Head Married Male 53 1798 General Smiths Wiltshire, England
Mary New Wife Married Female 55 1796 - Tadley, Hampshire, England
John New Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Smith Bristol, St Philip, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah New Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 - Bristol, St Philip, Gloucestershire, England
28, York Street, St Philip & St Jacob (Out), Clifton, Gloucestershire,


Where are George/Sarah 1861?...Edits (Australia, by looks of below)

https://australianroyalty.net.au/family.php?famid=F9458&ged=purnellmccord.ged


Death
1922 B36727 George Wride (Father) Daniel Wride Mary Christopher

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths


https://tinyurl.com/y8fgk55z

(above with photo 1922)


https://tinyurl.com/yd2b673d

(mention of 'Born in Bristol July 1836')


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(both articles taken from above)


Death
1885 B17967 Sarah Jane Wride (Father) Stephen New Mary - ** born England aged 49 years

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Mar 2018 15:51

George Frederick Wride in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: George Frederick Wride
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Clifton
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 88

George Frederick Wride in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933
Name: George Frederick Wride
Baptism Date: 2 Nov 1856
Baptism Place: Bristol, St Philip and Jacob, Gloucestershire, England
Father: George Wride
Mother: Sarah Wride




helina

helina Report 28 Mar 2018 17:55

Interesting, always good to hear about some social history, the 2 men where lucky to survive.

Yes Sarah and George went to Australia in 1857, sadly on route their oldest son George died.

Thanks for your help.

helina