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Thank you Safc & SylviaCanada

cane Report 2 May 2018 18:41

i also found this one Margaret smith, birth 1859..REG 1884, Manchester 4th Q age 25yrs old

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I cannot find that registration on Freebmd

There is this one of what might be the corr in the June quart ........

Deaths Jun 1884 (>99%)

Smith Margaret 25 Manchester 8d 148

These are the deaths registered in the December (4th) quarter) ...........

Deaths Dec 1884 (>99%)
Smith Margaret 69 W. Derby 8b 371
Smith Margaret 0 Manchester 8d 157
Smith Margaret 67 W. Derby 8b 414
Smith Margaret 1 Bolton 8c 232
Smith Margaret 1 Salford 8d 90
SMITH Margaret Ellen 25 Preston 8e 494
Smith Margaret Ellen 26 Preston 8e 494

to old for james and margaret


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Primrose Street, Lancaster, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Smith Head Married Male 47 1844 Lancashire, England House Painter
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Margaret J Smith Wife Married Female 43 1848 Lancashire, England -
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Samuel Smith Son Single Male 18 1873 Lancashire, England Grocers Porter
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Thomas Smith Son Single Male 14 1877 Lancashire, England Mechanics Driller
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Richard Smith Son Single Male 11 1880 Lancashire, England Scholar
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Jane Smith Daughter Single Female 8 1883 Lancashire, England Scholar
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Mary Smith Daughter Single Female 3 1888 Lancashire, England Scholar

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Baptism: 15 Jul 1888 Christ Church, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Mary Smith - [Child] of James Smith & Margaret
Born: 28 Jun 1888
Abode: 51, Primrose Street
Occupation: Painter
Baptised by: P. Bartlett, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1890, Page 67, Entry 535
Source: LDS Film 1526061

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Baptism: 1 Apr 1883 Christ Church, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Jane Smith - [Child] of James Smith & Margaret
Born: 14 Feb 1883
Abode: 57 Primrose Street
Occupation: Painter
Baptised by: P. Bartlett, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1857 - 1884, Page 88, Entry 699
Source: LDS Film 1526061

i also found this one Margaret smith, birth 1859..REG 1884, Manchester 4th Q age 25yrs old

It's possible Margaret died and James maybe remarried or emigrated alone??
There are so many James Smiths of about the right age.

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Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
Smith Margaret 22 Manchester 8d 177

Henry smith born 1824 in cowling Yorkshire and his wife Ann 1824-1864 were my 4 x gt grand parents

Thanks EriKah

I posted the 1871 for INFO - as did AG

Trying to get a handle on these people as you haven't answered my question about how you picked on this particular couple..................only trying to help you with your request

Yes i have this 1971 thanks...I'm,e just concentrating on the smith family and not the Wood family right now ..as not realy direct

An interesting (to me, anyway) but irrelevant snippet -

Margaret's brothers William and John Robert both married Margarets.

It's possible that they emigrated, unless you know otherwise. Online records don't start until 1890

1871

Name: Henry Smith
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Skipton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 64
Household schedule number: 123
Piece: 4005
Folio: 64
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Smith 44
William Smith 15
James W Smith 12
Sarah A Smith 8

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14, Clayburn Street, Hulme, Chorlton, Lancashire, England

Henry Smith Head Married Male 37 1824 Shoe Maker Yorkshire, England Transcription
Ann Smith Wife Married Female 37 1824 - Yorkshire, England Transcription
Dinah E Smith Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1852 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
John Smith Son - Male 7 1854 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
William Smith Son Unmarried Male 5 1856 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
James Smith Son Unmarried Male 2 1859 - Manchester, Lancashire, England

The earlier census for Margaret certainly fits with 1881 - perhaps circumstances forced James to change his line of work

How did you work back to this couple?

Do you know anything about them to help us get accurate info?

I know you're looking for later censuses, but in case it gives any clues, here's Margaret before marriage - also in Hulme:

Margaret Wood
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Margaret Wood
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Andrew Wood
Mother's name: Helen Wood
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester
Civil Parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 3997
Folio: 93
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Wood 49 - tailor, Scotland
Helen Wood 46 - Ireland
William Wood 14 - florist
Margaret Wood 13 - florist
John Robert Wood 5 - scholar

All children born Manchester.



Margaret Wood
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Margaret Wood
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Andrew Wood
Mother's name: Hellen Wood
Gender: Female
Where born: Hulme, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Chorlton upon Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 195
Piece: 2883
Folio: 20
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Wood 39
Hellen Wood 36
Janett Wood 10
Mary E Wood 7
William Wood 5
Margaret Wood 2

Yes i was having doughts abt that 1881 ArgyllGran

Iv'e just double checked the 1861 census and James states he is born in Hulme, manhester