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parents of my great grandmother Edith Williment

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peter

peter Report 15 May 2018 16:07

I’m trying to trace the parents of my great grandmother Edith Williment who married Wilson May on 26/9/1892.
I found a B.Cert for Edith 1871 born Norwich and I contacted the GRO to obtain it: Vol 4b, Page 156, Qtr 2 but they have been unable to find it. The marriage certificate shows her father to be Jacob Williment a labourer. The marriage taking place in Newcastle upon Tyne. As I can’t get her B.Cert I don’t know her mother’s name.
The 1861 census shows a Jacob Williment who is a labourer in Norwich with a wife Sophia. Unfortunately Edith is not on this Census as she’s not yet born. I can’t find Jacob Williment on either the 1881 or the 1891 census and therefore can’t make a link with the Jacob I’ve found.
Anyone with any advice? Thanks in advance.

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 May 2018 16:11

The certificate you tried to order is shown on the GRO website so should be available
? but 1869 not 1871

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
WILLIMENT, EDITH COSSEY Order
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 156

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 May 2018 16:11

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
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First name(s) GEORGE
Last name WILLIMENT
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1862
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ GEORGE WILLIMENT married one of these people
Elizabeth Whall, Ann Phoebe Cossey
District Norwich
District number -
County Norfolk
Country England
Volume 4B
Volume as transcribed 4B
Page number 180

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 May 2018 16:25

Here it says Edith was born South Shields

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
75, Shipley Street, Newcastle upon Tyne, Byker, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Wilson May Head Married Male 31 1870 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Corporation Cartman
Edith May Wife Married Female 28 1873 South Shields, Durham, England -
Thomas May Son - Male 7 1894 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England -
Matthew May Son - Male 4 1897 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England -
Maggie L May Daughter - Female 1 1900 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England -

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
MAY, MATTHEW WILLAMENT Order
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 90

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 May 2018 16:28

The marriage you refer to -

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Edith
Last name Williment
Name note -
Age 21
Marriage year 1892
Marriage date 26 Sep 1892
Marriage place Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Father's first name(s) Jacob
Father's last name Williment
Spouse's first name(s) Wilson
Spouse's last name May
Spouse's birth year 1869
Spouse's birth date 1869
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name May
Residence Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
County Northumberland
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 May 2018 16:30

And here born Newcastle

Married 18 years. 4 children born and still living1911

England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
90 Warwick Street Heaton Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Heaton, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Wilson May Head Married Male 41 1870 Newcastle Northumberland Cartman
Edith May Wife Married Female 38 1873 Newcastle Northumberland -
Thomas May Son Single Male 17 1894 Newcastle Northumberland Grocer Assistant
Matthew May Son - Male 14 1897 Newcastle Northumberland Milk Boy
Maggie May Daughter - Female 11 1900 Newcastle Northumberland School
George Wilson May Son - Male 8 1903 Newcastle Northumberland School

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MAY, GEORGE WILSON WILLIMENT Order
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 172

safc

safc Report 15 May 2018 16:35


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Church Street, Paul, Norwich, Norfolk, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jacob Williment Head Married Male 27 1834 Brick Layer Labourer Norwich, Norfolk, England
Transcription
Sophia Williment Wife Married Female 27 1834 Tailoress Norwich, Norfolk, England
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Hannah Williment Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk, England
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Maria Williment Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Norwich, Norfolk, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 May 2018 16:40

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
58, Ber Street, Norwich St John Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
George Williment Head Married Male 39 1842 Norwich, Norfolk, England General Outfitter Employ 2 Men 1 Boy
Ann P Williment Wife Married Female 40 1841 Norwich, Norfolk, England General Outfitter Wife
Ellen Williment Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Norwich, Norfolk, England General Outfitter Daur
Edith Williment Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar
George J Williment Son Single Male 7 1874 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar
Albert Williment Son Single Male 0 1881 Norwich, Norfolk, England -

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 May 2018 17:09

Norfolk Edith in London in 1891
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Private House, East Avenue, Walthamstow, West Ham, London & Essex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
George Williment Head Married Male 44 1847 Norfolk, England Commercial Traveller
Ann Phobe Williment Wife Married Female 53 1838 Norfolk, England -
Edith Williment Daughter Single Female 23 1868 Norfolk, England Board School Teacher
Albert Williment Son - Male 10 1881 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar
? Elizth ? Badcock Boarder Single Female 28 1863 Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Board School Teacher
Emily Eliza ? Domestic Servant Single Female 25 1866 Essex, England Domestic General Servant

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 May 2018 14:12

These are the parents of the child born in Norwich

Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
Cossey Ann Phoebe Norwich 4b 180 S
Williment George Norwich 4b 180

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 May 2018 14:14

Name: Jacob Willement
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Date: 1834
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1854
Marriage Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Father: John Willement
Spouse: Sophia Jury (Jeary on other records)
Spouse Father: Saul Jury




WILLEMENT, EDITH ELIZA JARY
GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 104

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 May 2018 14:22

Name: Jacob Willemont
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Willemont
Mother's name: Elizth Willemont
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Norwich St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Coslany
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 1812
Folio: 20
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John Willemont 43
Elizth Willemont 45
Jacob Willemont 16
Maria Willemont 14
Joseph Willemont 8

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 May 2018 14:27


1861

Name: Jacob Williment
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophia Williment
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich
Civil Parish: Norwich St Paul
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: East Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 3h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Piece: 1212
Folio: 63
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob Williment 27
Sophia Williment 27
Hannah Williment 4
Maria Williment 1


1871 for 'Hannah'

Name: Ann Willinent
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Norwich, St George
Civil Parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: East Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 51
Piece: 1810
Folio: 84
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Louisa Jary 60
Ann Willinent 14

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 May 2018 15:44

WILLEMENT, LOUISA JARY Order
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 167

WILLIMENT, MARIA JARY Order
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 123

WILLIMENT, ELIZABETH JARY Order
GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 114

WILLIMENT, GEORGE JARY Order
GRO Reference: 1864 S Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 128

WILLIMENT, ALICE JEARY Order
GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 138

WILLMENT, ELLEN RUTH JARY Order
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 132

WILLEMENT, MEGGIE JARY Order
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE-ON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 118

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 May 2018 16:03

Name: Saul Jary
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1808
Burial Date: 7 Apr 1847
Burial Place: Norwich, St Stephen, Norfolk, England
Parish as it Appears: St Stephen's

Name: Saul Jary
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 Jul 1808
Birth Place: Freethorpe, Norfolk, England
Father: Edward Jary
Mother: Anne Baker

1841 census
Name: Saul Sary
[Saul Jary]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: St Stephen
Hundred: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Mancroft
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 791
Book: 3
Folio: 12
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Saul Sary 30
Louisa Sary 30
Sophia Sary 6
Ann Sary 2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 May 2018 16:07

Name: Ann Jary
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Norwich St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Coslany
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Piece: 1812
Folio: 20
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Charlesworth 47
Elizth Charlesworth 49
Ann Charlesworth 14
Louisa Jary 40
Sophia Jary 16
Ann Jary 11
George Jary 9
William Jary 7
Maria Jary 4

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 16 May 2018 17:50

Pretty sure ErikaH has got it right.

This is your great grandmother's birth:-

First name(s) EDITH ELIZA
Last name WILLEMENT
Birth year 1872
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District Newcastle upon Tyne
County Northumberland
Country England
Volume 10B
Page 104
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

and her parent's marriage:-

First name(s) JACOB
Last name WILLEMENT
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1854
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JACOB WILLEMENT married one of these people
Susan Clarke, >>>>>>>Sophia Jary<<<<<<<, Georgianna Austin
District Norwich
District number -
County Norfolk
Country England
Volume 4B
Volume as transcribed 4B
Page number 326
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England

Kath. x

safc

safc Report 16 May 2018 18:27

Marriage entry Report an Error in Transcription Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Norfolk
Place (with link) Norwich
Church name (with link) St Clement
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Register entry number 283
Marriage date 25 Dec 1854
Groom forename Jacob
Groom surname WILLEMENT
Groom age 20
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom occupation Baker
Bride forename Sophia
Bride surname JARY
Bride age 20
Bride condition Spinster
Bride occupation Tailoress
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname WILLEMENT
Groom father occupation Dyer
Bride father forename Saul
Bride father surname JARY
Bride father occupation Miller
Witness1 forename Charles
Witness1 surname ARNUP
Witness2 forename Anna
Witness2 surname CHARLESWORTH
Transcribed by Tony Widdows
Credit Tony Widdows
File line number 285

safc

safc Report 16 May 2018 18:32

Marriage entry Report an Error in Transcription Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Norfolk
Place (with link) Heigham
Church name (with link) St Bartholomew
Register type (with link) Bishop's Transcripts
Marriage date 27 Aug 1833
Groom forename Saul
Groom surname JARY
Groom condition Single
Groom abode Heigham
Bride forename Louisa
Bride surname HAWKES
Bride condition Single
Bride abode Heigham
Witness1 forename John
Witness1 surname BEEVOR
Witness2 forename Elizabeth
Witness2 surname SMITH
Notes Groom signed his name; Bride signed her name; Married by Banns
Transcribed by Julie Harold
Credit Barb Jones
File line number 1171

safc

safc Report 16 May 2018 19:00

Marriage entry Report an Error in Transcription Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Norfolk
Place (with link) Freethorpe
Church name (with link) All Saints
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Register entry number 66
Marriage date 12 Aug 1800
Groom forename Edward
Groom surname JARY
Groom condition Widower
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname BAKER
Bride parish Acle
Bride condition Spinster
Witness1 forename G
Witness1 surname BAKER
Witness2 forename Ann Maria
Witness2 surname BAKER
Notes By Licence
Transcribed by Julie Harold
File line number 242