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I am seeking information on a Charles William George Smeeton who was born in 1875 at Edmonton Middlesex to William George Smeeton & Edith Julia Stace
He married Lilian Elizabeth Pierpoint 11/11/1897 in Hackney
They had 7 children(I have all of their names )
Charles left Lilian Elizabeth & immigrated to Canada with children Amy Lilian Mary born 29/7/1900 died 1986 & May Victoria born 1903 died 1959 ( I have their marriages )

Amy Lilian Mary & May Victoria left UK on the "Corinthian" 14/3/1912 for St John, New Brunswick Canada. I do not know when their father immigrated

What I am looking for is a death for Charles William George (with a son from his
2nd marriage ) who died in a car accident when their car went over an embankment on their way to play in a Sympathony Concert, also his marriage

Any further information will be very much appreciated
Thank You Ellen

He was only reg as Charles William on his birth cert

View England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charles William Smeeton
Registration Year: 1875
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Edmonton
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Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 219


Do you have his actual birth date ?!

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Marriage 1921
Daughter May marriage I
Name: George Smeaton
Gender: Male
Spouse: Lillian Pierpoint
Child: May V Smeaton

Daughter Amy 1919
Name: Charles Smeeton
Gender: Male
Spouse: Lillian Woods
Child: Amy Lillian May Smeeton

He must have left her before 1911 as he isn't with them on the 1911 census

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Name: Lilian Smeeton
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Married
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Islington
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 1 Cutlers Terrace, Balls Pond Rd N
Marital Status: Visitor, Married (Married)
Years Married: 14
Estimated Marriage Year: 1897
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Highbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 972
Household Members:
Name Age
Lilian Smeeton 36
Muriel Smeeton 13
Amy Smeeton 10
May Smeeton 8
Alexander Smeeton 3 born Maidenhead

Married 14 years 5 children born 4 still living
So who are the other two children and when were they born


Both girls went to Canada as Barnardos kiddies

May Victoria Smeeton
Gender: Female
Departure Date: 14 Mar 1912
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Ship Name: Corinthian
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Shipping line: Allan Line
Official Number: 111257
Master: R G Bamber
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Ancestry.com. UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.

With Amy Lilian

Lilian's death

Lilian E Smeeton
Death Age: 67
Birth Date: abt 1875
Registration Date: Jun 1942
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 3a
Page: 849

Births Dec 1907
SMEETON Alexander George Maidenhead 2c 385

Not seeing a birth for murial

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
SMEETON, AMY PIERPOINT Order
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 940 Order
SMEETON, LUCY PIERPOINT Order
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 500 Order

SMEETON, FLORENCE MARY PIERPOINT Order
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 561

She was the one who died

Deaths Dec 1909
SMEETON Florence Mary 4 Maidenhead 2c 230

So both girls were in Barnardos but she had two more children

SMEETON, EVELYN LILIAN PIERPOINT Order
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 927

SMEETON, FLORENCE EDITH PIERPOINT Order
GRO Reference: 1913 M Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 926

So is he named as the father on the certs if so he must have left after 1913

So Alexander stayed in the uk

Smeaton (Smeeton) Household (2 People)
316 Philip Lane , Tottenham M.B., Middlesex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Alexander G Smeaton (Smeeton) 01 Dec 1907 London Transport Official Inspector-Drving Inspector-Central Also violinist
Constance M Smeeton 17 Sep 1902 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Ref: RG101/0909F/017/32 Letter Code:
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Edit he was in the workhouse in 1914

Alexander Smeeton
in the London, England, Selected Poor Law Removal and Settlement Records, 1698-1930
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Name: Alexander Smeeton
Age: 6
Birth Year: abt 1908
Record Type: Settlement Papers
Event Date: 2 Jan 1914
Poor Law Union or Parish: Hackney
Residence: Hackney
Reference Number: HABG/195/009

Florence was also in Tottenham

Weaving Household (6 People)
141 Clyde Road , Tottenham M.B., Middlesex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Florence Lewin (Weaving,Smeeton) 23 Mar 1913 Provisions & Grocers Shop Assistant
Harvey Weaving 30 Nov 1879 Warehouseman Wholesale Drapery
Maurice Weaving 06 Jun 1913 Filer Wall - Floor
Patricia Church (Weaving) 03 Nov 1914 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Robert Weaving 10 Feb 1916 Weaver Equipment Material
William Church 03 Jul 1915 Carpenter Joiner
Ref: RG101/0920B/005/23 Letter Code: BTHE
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Not seeing any travel info for Charles at all

Did he serve in WW1.

How do you know he went to Canada and when was he killed

So he was a musician

Charles
Last name Smeeton
Relationship -
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Age 15
Birth year 1876
Birth town Hackney
Birth town as transcribed HACKNEY
Birth county Middlesex
Birth county as transcribed MIDDLESEX
Birth place England
Occupation Soldier Musician Boy
Street -
Town Colchester
Parish St Giles
City Colchester
County Essex
Country England
Registration district Colchester
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 1408
Folio 101
Page 12
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

The children born to Charles William Smeeton & Liian Pierpoint were
(1) Lucy born 13/8/1898 died 1979 married George Medhurst 1920
(2) Amy Lilian May 29/8/1900 died 1986 Canada married Joseph Lloyd Trindale
(3) May Victoria 1903 died 1959 Canada married Thomas Vasey Trindale
(4) Alexander George 1/12/1907 died 1985 married Constance Burbridge 1932
(5) Evelyn Lilian 1912 died 1999 Perth West Aust married Albert Henry Turner 1934
(6) Florence Elizabeth 23/3/1913 died 2002 married Maurice Weaving & Denis E Lewin
(7) Albert 1917 died 1919
I have seen the 1911 census where Lilian Evelyn Smeetonis living with her sister Edith Annie Wood.I do not know who Muriel is aged 13 years
Ellen

With Alexander George

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Name: Lilian Smeeton
Year: 1929
County or Borough: Haringey
Ward or Division/Constituency: Tottenham South
Street address: 133 Beaconsfield Road


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Name: Lilian Elizabeth Smeeton
Year: 1930
County or Borough: Hackney
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney
Street address: 67 Colvestone Crescent

I think Charles must have still been with Lilian after Albert L birth in 1917

Murial may have been Lucy as it the same birth year

So Albert born 1917 is Charles named as his father. Or was Lilian having more children who weren't Charles

Seems strange that two girls went into Barnardos and were sent as BHC children

Have you applied for their records

It is possible though they were in the workhouse and just sent by Barnardos.i have come across that in my searches

I belong to the BHC children group on Facebook and often do look ups for descendents of BHC children

According to the christening of Annie Lilian Mary on 1/5/1901 Charles was a bandsman with the Irish Guards, so there may be a military record for him?

Amy was baptised as Annie

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Name: Lilian Elizabeth Smeeton
Gender: Male
Spouse: Charles William George Smeeton
Child: Annie Lilian Mary Smeeton
BornApril 29th 1900
Father is a bandsman Irish guards

Home address 119 Guinness Buildings, Marlboro Road Chelsea

I was told by the grand daughter Ann ( who lives in Canada) of May Victoria born 1903 died 1959 that her father had remarried & had a son they both died in a car accident whilst going to perform in a Symphony Concert.

Ann is going thru some papers to see if she has any further info on the accident

Murial Agnes christening:

Charles William George Smeaton
Gender:Male

Spouse: Lilian Elizabeth Smeaton

Child: Muriel Agnes Smeaton
Born 31/8/98, christened 17/3/99 father a musician