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Ancestry isn't finding anything I,m afraid

Sorry to say I have no idea

Any idea of a year of death

Just received some further info Charles William George Smeeton with his new wife & son move to the US; They died on their way to San Francisco in winter to a Symphony Concert their car went over an embankment

Thank you for the 1939 Register, I looked under similar names but got nothing

I am in touch with Ann in Canada whose grandmother was May Victoria Smeeton married to Thomas Vasey Trindale d/o Charles & Lilian.


Ann told me that Charles remarried & had a son (she is trying to find to who) they both died in a car going over an embankment whilst they were on their way to a Symphony Concert, this is all I know to this date

Hmmm -

so Charles was in the Irish Guards in 1900 ? He must have been one of the first -

The Irish Guards Regiment was formed by Royal Warrant of Queen Victoria in 1900 to commemorate the contribution of the Irish soldiers during the Second Boer War. The Regiment was then stationed on ceremonial duties until the outbreak of the First World War.
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/units/171/irish-guards/


So in 1901 he should have been somewhere in the UK, even if not actually with Lilian.

If Charles was in the Irish Guards, perhaps he was abroad with the Army on census dates.

I don't see Lilian and Amy/Annie in 1901, either with or without Charles.
Nor Muriel/Lucy.

You said Charles had a second marriage, Ellen. Who was the second wife?

Mistranscribed


Naylor (Tuffill) Household (6 People)
32 Newlyn Road , Tottenham M.B., Middlesex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Lilian E Sneeton 24 Aug 1874 Pension GA widow !!!!
Charlotte M Naylor (Tuffill) 06 Apr 1912 Army Equitment Machinist
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Its Smeeton on the actual page

Possibly her in 1938

View London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Lilian Smeeton
Year: 1938
County or Borough: Hackney
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney
Street address: 51 Farleigh Road

Lilian died as Smeeton in1942. Edmonton reg district

I think they reg some of the children in one name and then altered them
Murial is Lucy I think

Amy was reg as Amy and baptised as Annie

I have been looking for Lilian Elizabeth Smeeton on the 1939 Register,the only likely one is a Lilian E Wood 7/6/1874 with a Charles W Wood born 13/2/1914 could he be related to her sister's husband John Wood born abt 1876

1911 Lilian Elizabeth Smeeton with her children were visiting her sister Edith Annie Wood, who lived at 1 Cutlers Terrace, Balls Pond Road Islington


Did Lilian change her name to Wood?

I can not find a Murial Agnes Smeaton born to Charles William George Smeaton & Lilian Elizabeth Pierpoint 31/8/1898.

I found a Lucy born 31 August 1898 to Charles William George Smeeton & Lilian Elizabeth Pierpoint

Canada are very private with releasing bmds I have found it very difficult to find info online

The 1921 census is online but then doesn't seem complete because lots of searches come up with zero results

Murial Agnes christening:

Charles William George Smeaton
Gender:Male

Spouse: Lilian Elizabeth Smeaton

Child: Muriel Agnes Smeaton
Born 31/8/98, christened 17/3/99 father a musician

I was told by the grand daughter Ann ( who lives in Canada) of May Victoria born 1903 died 1959 that her father had remarried & had a son they both died in a car accident whilst going to perform in a Symphony Concert.

Ann is going thru some papers to see if she has any further info on the accident

Amy was baptised as Annie

View London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917

Name: Lilian Elizabeth Smeeton
Gender: Male
Spouse: Charles William George Smeeton
Child: Annie Lilian Mary Smeeton
BornApril 29th 1900
Father is a bandsman Irish guards

Home address 119 Guinness Buildings, Marlboro Road Chelsea

According to the christening of Annie Lilian Mary on 1/5/1901 Charles was a bandsman with the Irish Guards, so there may be a military record for him?

Murial may have been Lucy as it the same birth year

So Albert born 1917 is Charles named as his father. Or was Lilian having more children who weren't Charles

Seems strange that two girls went into Barnardos and were sent as BHC children

Have you applied for their records

It is possible though they were in the workhouse and just sent by Barnardos.i have come across that in my searches

I belong to the BHC children group on Facebook and often do look ups for descendents of BHC children

I think Charles must have still been with Lilian after Albert L birth in 1917