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Sorry ... since it was only birth and parents of Jane I was after I thought it would just confuse matters if I added it to my Richard enquiry.
Also I have no idea how to refer to previous posts.
I stand corrected ... sorry.

https://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1370853

Would have been nice if you had made reference and given a link to your previous post so we knew what information you already had.

Chasing family often leads to information about the original query.

If you have the Osborne family information then Jane was pretty consistent with her age and so year of birth, over 3 census as Osborne and as Tonks in 2 census with Father Samuel. Osborne census always says b Walsall, 1851 Bloxwich which is part of Walsall.

Thanks everyone. I do have the info on Richard from an earlier post ... thanks to you wonderful genes detectives ... and yes, Jane did marry his brother John.

I really don't know how you do it.

Thanks ... I'll now go off to digest everything.

?? Richard and John brothers and also Samuel who John is with in 1881

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Green Lane, Walsall, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel Osburn Head Married Male 46 1805 Chain Maker E 5 Men Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Louisa Osburn Wife - Female 36 1815 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Richard Osburn Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Coverd Funiture Manuf Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Henry Osburn Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Chain Maker Walsall, Staffordshire, England
William Osburn Son - Male 16 1835 Chain Maker Walsall, Staffordshire, England
John Osburn Son - Male 14 1837 Chain Maker Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Louisa Osburn Daughter - Female 11 1840 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Samuel Osburn Son - Male 8 1843 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
James Osburn Son - Male 6 1845 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Osburn Son - Male 4 1847 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Caroline Osburn Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) JANE
Last name OSBORNE
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1870
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JANE OSBORNE married one of these people
John Osborne, Edward Robert Hudson
District Birmingham
District number -
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Volume as transcribed 6D
Page number 77

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England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) RICHARD
Last name OSBORNE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1828
Age 39
Death quarter 2
Death year 1867
District Walsall
County Staffordshire
Volume 6B
Page 367

This looks to be John Osborne - original says Unmarried rather than single, but occupation consistent with 1871

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
26, Long Street, Walsall Foreign, Walsall, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Samuel Osborne Head Married Male 38 1843 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Brass Dresser
Emma Osborne Wife Married Female 40 1841 Ludlow, Shropshire, England -
William Edward Osborne Son Single Male 15 1866 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Silver Plater (Elec)
Alfred Osborne Son Single Male 12 1869 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Scholar
Caroline Osborne Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Scholar
Walter James Osborne Son Single Male 7 1874 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Scholar
Minnie Osborne Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Walsall, Staffordshire, England -
Frank Osborne Son Single Male 2 1879 Walsall, Staffordshire, England -
Ellen Osborne Daughter Single Female 0 1881 Walsall, Staffordshire, England -
John Osbourne Brother Single Male 43 1838 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Cartgear Maker

Name Samuel Tonks
Spouse's Name Ann Nicklin
Event Date 01 Oct 1830
Event Place St. Philip, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch

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Samuel Tonks
England, Warwickshire, Parish Registers
Name Samuel Tonks
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 01 Oct 1830
Event Place Birmingham, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
Residence Place St Philip Birmingham
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Name Ann Nicklin
Spouse's Residence Place St Philip Birmingham
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Citing this Record
"England, Warwickshire, Parish Registers, 1535-1984," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/

Images not available on site - need to check at Family Search History Centre

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription
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First name(s) Jane
Last name Tonks
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1838
Baptism date 28 Jan 1838
Place Walsall
County Staffordshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Samuel
Father's last name Tonks
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name -

This record has Jane aged 20 at marriage !!

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Jane
Last name Tonks
Name note -
Age 20
Marriage year 1853
Marriage date 17 May 1853
Marriage place Birmingham
Father's first name(s) Samuel
Father's last name Tonks
Spouse's first name(s) Richard
Spouse's last name Osborne
Spouse's birth year 1829
Spouse's birth date 1829
Spouse's father's first name(s) Samuel
Spouse's father's last name Osborne

Talking of ages - she is consistent, but Richard has become a John and knocked 10 years off his age!

EDIT - see later post

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Essex Street, Lower Court House, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Osborne Head - Male 33 1838 - Staffordshire, England
Jane Osborne Wife - Female 33 1838 - Staffordshire, England
Charles Osborne Son - Male 14 1857 - Staffordshire, England
Emma Osborne Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Staffordshire, England
Sydney Osborne Son - Male 10 1861 - Staffordshire, England
John Osborne Son - Male 8 1863 - Staffordshire, England
Ellen Jane Osborne Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England
William Osborne Son - Male 3 1868 - Warwickshire, England

John is a Cart Gear Maker
Jane a Whip Handle Coverer

all b Walsall except William who is recorded as b Birmingham

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

OSBORNE, JOHN TONKS Order
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 558

OSBORNE, ELLEN JANE TONKS Order
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 654

OSBORNE, WILLIAM TONKS Order
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 85 Order

If this is the family, then her age points to a birth year of 1838/9

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
305, Green Lane, Bloxwich, Walsall, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Osborne Head Married Male 32 1829 ...Harness Furniture Maker Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Jane Osborne Wife Married Female 22 1839 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Charles Osborne Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Emma Osborne Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Sidney Osborne Son - Male 0 1861 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
John Osborne Brother Unmarried Male 23 1838 Chain Maker Walsall, Staffordshire, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

OSBORNE, SAMUEL CHARLES TONKS Order
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 589 Order

OSBOURN, EMMA TONKS Order ***note spelling
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 535 Order

OSBORNE, SIDNEY TONKS Order
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 535 Order

Just a thought -

If Jane was born 1838 and married 1853, she was only 15 at marriage ?

I'm off to start getting ready for bed!!!

Thanks Yvonne!!


BTW ........... a Public Family Tree aid that Jane married twice.



Just to confirm Ann's surname

Jane Tonks 13
Emma Tonks 9
Eliza Tonks 7 b.
John Tonks 5 b.


TONKS, ELIZA mmn NICKLIN
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in WALSALL UNION Volume 17 Page 269

TONKS, JOHN mmn NICKLEN
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in WALSALL UNION Volume 17 Page 264


I can't find Emma's birth registration, but she was baptised (I haven't found baptisms for any of the others!)


Staffordshire baptisms

First name(s) Emma
Last name Tonks
Baptism year 1841
Baptism date 15 Dec 1841
Baptism place Walsall, St Peter
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Samuel
Mother's first name(s) Anne
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3862/1/1
Page 7
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms

Address:- Staff. St
Occupation:- Bridle Cutter

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: Samuel Tonks
Death Date: 13 Aug 1882
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Probate Date: 11 Dec 1882
Registry: Lichfield

from image:-

Administration (with the Will) of the Personal Estate of Samuel Tonks late of 18 Station Street, Walsall in the County of Stafford, Licensed Victualler who died 13 August 1882 at 18 Station Street was granted in Lichfield to Rhoda Tonks of 18 Stattion Street, the Widow the Relict , the Universal Legatee for Life.
Personal Estate:- £587 12s 7d


Probate granted 1886 ........

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: Samuel Tonks
Death Date: 13 Aug 1882
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Probate Date: 7 Aug 1886
Registry: Lichfield

from image:-
Administration (with the Will) of the Personal Estate of Samuel Tonks late of 18 Station Street, Walsall in the County of Stafford, Licensed Victualler who died 13 August 1882 at 18 Station Street left unadministered by Rhoda Tonks of 18 Stattion Street, the Widow the Relict , the Universal Legatee for Life was granted at Lichfield to James Tonks Currier and William Tonks Commercial Clerk, both of Goodall Street, Walsall, the Sons, two of the Residuary legatees substituted.
Personal Estate:- £587 12s 7d


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: Rhoda Tonks
Death Date: 9 May 1886
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Probate Date: 1 Sep 1886
Registry: Lichfield

from image:-

Administration of the Personal Estate of Rhoda Tonks late of 18 Station Street, Walsall, in the County of Stafford, Widow, who died 9 May 1886 at 18 Station Street was granted at Lichfield to William Tonks of 18 Commercial Street, Commercial Clerk, the Son and one of the Next of Kin
Personal Estate:- £37 16s 8d

You're brilliant Sylvia, thanks so much. The Green Street address definitely fits. I think I can probably forget about the 1833 birth date.

I haven't found the Jane born ca 1833 ..... but following through with Samuel

Mistranscribed in 1861 on ancestry ..........

1861 Census

Name: Samuel Louks
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rhoda Louks
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Bloxwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 23

Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 2014
Folio: 130
Page Number: 16

Samuel Louks 52 Victualler & Bridle Cutter employing 1 man & 1 boy
Rhoda Louks 48
Henry Louks 29 Brewer
Eliza Louks 17
John Louks 15 Currier
William Louks 10 Scholar
Mary Louks 5 Scholar

Address:- 293 Green Lane



1871 Census

Name: Samuel Tonks
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rhoda Tonks
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 2960
Folio: 113
Page Number: 17

Samuel Tonks 62 Victualler & Maltster
Rhoda Tonks 57 b.ca 1814, Bloxwich
Henry Tonks 40 b.ca 1831, Walsall, Brewer
William Tonks 20 b.ca 1851, Walsall, Saddler's Ironmonger
Mary Tonks 15 b.ca 1856, Walsall, Barmaid
Sarah Martin 26 General Servant
George W C Mondon 28 Boarder

Address:- 28 Ablewell St (the Royal Oak)


1881 Census

Name: Samuel Tonks
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Rhoda Tonks
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 18 Station St Commercial Inn
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Innkeeper
Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 39

Piece: 2829
Folio: 24
Page Number: 41

Samuel Tonks 72 Innkeeper
Rhoda Tonks 67
Henry Tonks 49 Brewer
Emma Ankrett 15 Domestic Servant

??????????????????????

possibly Samuel's baptism?????

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name Samuel Tonks
Gender Male
Baptism Date 27 Jul 1808
Baptism Place Saint Matthew,Walsall,Stafford,England
Father Samuel Tonks
Mother Henrietta
FHL Film Number 421612

finally found the marriage!

Marriages Sep 1848 (>99%)

BOND Rhoda Walsall 17 270
Tonks Samuel Walsall 17 270


so the correct birth registration is ...................

TONKS, WILLIAM mmn BOND
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in WALSALL Volume 17 Page 287


I can't find a record of a marriage to Ann, not baptisms for Jane