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Hi all, glad to have a reason for coming back!

I have recently been contacted by a 'wannabe' cousin concerning my William Wells c.1860. I checked for him in FreeBMD and there were 2 born in York in 1860!

As William is the brother of my main family line I have not given him much attention and certainly :-
Marriages Mar 1882
WELLS William York
9d 26

TAYLOR Annie Elizabeth York
9d 26

is new to me.

Please can anybody see if this couple and children make an appearance in the 1891 census and then, of course I have to see whether they are a part of my extended family?

Many thanks,
Frances

Name: William Wells
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1860
Spouse: Annie Wells
Child: Florie Wells
Joseph D Wells
William H Wells
Birth Place: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Maurice
Residence Place: Copmanthorpe, St Maurice, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Walmgate
ED, Institution or Vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Piece: 3891
Folio: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 31
Annie Wells 26
Florie Wells 4
Joseph D Wells 3
William H Wells 1

WELLS, FLORENCE BEATRICE TAYLOR Order
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 52


WELLS, JOSEPH DANIEL TAYLOR Order
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 49

Andy

1901

Name: William Wells
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Annie Elizabeth Wells
Birth Place: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors:
Piece: 4234
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17
Household schedule number: 107
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 41
Annie Elizabeth Wells 37
Florence Beatrice Wells 15
Joseh Daniel Wells 14
William Henry Wells 11
Hannah Wells 9
Ada Wells 6
Frederick Charles Wells 3

Andy

1911

Name: Annie Elizabeth Wells
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
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County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 35 Craven Road Woodhouse
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Leeds
Registration District Number: 500
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Piece: 27018
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Elizabeth Wells 46
Joseph Daniel Wells 23
William Henry Wells 20
Hannah Wells 19
Ada Wells 16
Frederick Charles Wells 13
Jack Chato Wells 8

11 chidren, 7 living 4 died


Andy

Thank you Andy, but can I be cheeky and ask for the 1901 as I have just realised the person I am looking for next wasn't born until1897!

Births Jun 1897
Wells Frederick Charles Ecclesall B.
9c 471

Thank you Andy, you've done it to me again - posting new stuff while I'm busy typing regarding your first post!

Now the tricky bit. Is there any way of determining if William Wells 1860 was the son of William Wells 1833 York .....??

Yes, I know the answer, my 'cousin' needs to get William 1860's marriage certificate ...

This family?

Name: William Wells
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: 1860
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Wells
Mother's name: Mary Jane Wells
Gender: Male
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Gate Fulford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 111
Piece: 3554
Folio: 11
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 27 born 1834....
Mary Jane Wells 25
Walter Wells 6
Clara Wells 5
Matilda Wells 3
William Wells 1

Andy

or this?

but father born 1819

Name: William Wells
Age: 10/12
Estimated Birth Year: 1860
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Wells
Mother's name: Eliza Wells
Gender: Male
Where born: York
Civil Parish: York St George
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 3553
Folio: 13
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 42 born 1819
Eliza Wells 44
Anne Wells 18
Grace Wells 7
William Wells 10/12

Andy

Could be any of these. Which one is yours? Should be easy enough now to look up marriages and determine fathers names which may narrow it down.
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First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name WELLS
Birth year 1859
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name Lawyer
District York
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9D
Page 40


First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name WELLS
Birth year 1860
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name Hodgson
District York
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9D
Page 33


First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name WELLS
Birth year 1860
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name Perry
District York
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9D
Page 26

WELLS, WILLIAM LAWYER Order ( Sawyer ???)
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 40

WELLS, WILLIAM HODGSON Order
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 33

1861
2, Redeness Street, St Cuthbert, York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Daniel Wells Head Married Male 33 1828 Joiner Durham, England
Transcription
Mary A Wells Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Thomas Wells Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Elizabeth Wells Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Sarah Wells Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Yorkshire, England
Transcription
William Wells Son - Male 1 1860 - Yorkshire, England



William
Last name Wells
Baptism year 1860
Birth year -
County Yorkshire (Ainsty & City of York)
Country England
Baptism place York, St Cuthbert
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
Father's first name(s) Daniel
Baptism date 23 Dec 1860

Name: Daniel Wells
Registration Year: 1852
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: York
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 38
Records on Page:
Name
Mary Ann Sawyer

so rules out the sawyer birt

WILLIAM
Last name WELLS
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1854
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM WELLS married one of these people
Mary Jane Hodgson, Elizabeth Housham

goes with the above posted census by Andrew

and this
WILLIAM
Last name WELLS
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1848
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM WELLS married one of these people
Mary Dixon, Frances Andrews, Eliza Perry
District York
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 23
Volume as transcribed 23
Page number 603

Marriage: Father listed as Daniel

name(s) William Wells
Age 23
Birth year 1859
Residence Redness ST
Marriage year 1882
Marriage date 06 Mar 1882
Marriage place York, St Cuthbert
Spouse's name(s) Annie Elizabeth Taylor
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's residence Warwick St
Father's name(s) Daniel Wells
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Taylor
County Yorkshire (Ainsty & City of York)

Marriage: Father listed as William

name(s) William Wells (confectioner)
Age 22
Marriage date 1882
Marriage place York
Father's name(s) William Wells (brush maker)
Spouse's name(s) Amy Poole
Spouse's age 19
Spouse's birth date 1863
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Poole
Residence York, Yorkshire, England
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Marriage: father listed as William (transcription- can't see original)

name(s) William Wells
Age 23
Marriage date 25 Jun 1883
Marriage place York
Father's name(s) William Wells
Spouse's name(s) Annie Louisa Hawkins
Spouse's birth date 1865
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Hawkins
Residence York, York, England

How did you find your William's YOB of c1860?

Who was his brother in your main line?

Sorry guys but none of your offerings seem to match my family and for ArgyllGran I can tell you that the main family line is through the eldest of William 1833's children, my grandfather, Walter 1854

Thanks for all your efforts,
Frances

Is this your family? (1861 already posted by Andy)

William Wells
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William Wells
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Wells
Gender: Male
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Gate Fulford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 275
Piece: 4753
Folio: 51
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 38
Mary J Wells 36
Walter Wells 16
William Wells 11
Mary J Wells 9
Emily L Wells 4
Alfred Wells 2
Louisa Wells 10 Months


But you said nothing suggested was your family ?
Or have I misunderstood?

William Wells
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William Wells
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Wells
Mother: Mary J. Wells
Gender: Male
Where born: New Fulford, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Gate Fulford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 12 Whitby Ter
Occupation: Clerk Railway
Registration district: York
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors:
Piece: 4726
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 47
Mary J. Wells 45
William Wells 21
Mary J. Wells 19
Emily A. Wells 14
Alfred Wells 12
Louisa Wells 10

Your William (if this is the right family) had left home by 1891. That would fit in with possibly having married in 1882:


Alfred Wells
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Alfred Wells
Gender: Male
Age: 2
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1889
[1869]
Father: William Wells
Mother: Mary Jane Wells
Birth Place: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Lawrence
Residence Place: York, St Lawrence, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Walmgate
ED, Institution or Vessel: 22
Neighbors:
Piece: 3893
Folio: 135
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 57
Mary Jane Wells 55
Emily A Wells 24
Alfred Wells 2
Louisa Wells 20


Have you found your William in 1891?

Is there any reason why he could not be the one who married Annie Taylor?

EDIT:
Oh yes, I see Annie's husband's father was Daniel.

Of course, there's also this marriage:

William Wells
in the England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988
Name: William Wells
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1860
Marriage Date: 25 Mar 1882
Marriage Place: York, Yorkshire, England
Father: William Wells
Spouse: Amy Poole



William Wells
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William Wells
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1861
Spouse: Amy Wells
Child: Beatrice A Wells
Eliza C Wells
Elizabeth A Wells
William Wells
Walter Wells
Birth Place: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St George
Residence Place: St George, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Walmgate
ED, Institution or Vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Piece: 3893
Folio: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 30
Amy Wells 28
Beatrice A Wells 8
Eliza C Wells 6
Elizabeth A Wells 4
William Wells 3
Walter Wells 10/12