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Annie Pellatt & Eliza Pellatt

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2018 17:24

GG - that's after DetEcTive's query about whether or not it was Evelyn Morton's son Cyril who died 1914, with Fiddians among the mourners.

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Jun 2018 16:32

What's the cryptic -"is it safe to continue"

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Jun 2018 11:41

Thanks - Dorothy May Carylon & Cyril E Moreton don't appear to have had any children. None showing on FMP or Freebmd.

If its of any interest, according to a letter in Leamington Spa Courier 18 January 1946, Dorothy was still living at 2 Northumberland Road.
The letter was part of a discussion about shortening the length of Sermons to attract the younger person. Despite claiming not to be a member of any particular church, she was against the idea.
“….to be a Christian does cost a lot of effort. ……[unless there is] some sacrifice of our time in order to worship……[it] will not be of much value. “

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2018 11:37

Yes, I think it's safe to continue!

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Jun 2018 11:35

Is it safe to continue?

This *might* be Dorothy May's death
Name: Dorothy May Morton
Death Age: 91
Birth Date: 18 Nov 1878
Registration Date: Dec 1969
Registration district: Warwick
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 2992

Probate
MORETON Dorothy May of 19 Beauchamp Av Leamington Spa died 6 Nov 1969 Probate London 13 Apr (1970) £25744

FMP isn't picking up a simple name search on the 1939 register.
Ancestrys version
Name: Dorothy M Morton
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widow
Birth Date: 18 Nov 1878
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 2 Northumberland Rd
Residence Place: Royal Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Private Means + ARP warden
Schedule Number: 237
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QEFX
Registration district: 393/1
Household Members:
Name
Dorothy M Morton
Violet E Boyd - Single, Domestic Servant b 16 Apr 1872

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2018 11:26

There's also this, compiled by the same person:

http://paulfiddian.co.uk/descend.php?personID=I7106&tree=tree1

Unfortunately he hasn't included Cyril in that, nor in the document in the link I gave before.

The main focus is those members of the Fiddian family who became clergymen, so the Mortons only come into it because of Winifred's marriage.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Jun 2018 11:15

Does it have his marriage?
Cyril Evelyn Morton (27) Clerk in Holy Orders
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1886
Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1913
Marriage Place: St Mary, Harrow, Harrow, England
Father: Evelyn Howard Morton - Clerk in Holy Orders
Spouse: Dorothy May Carlyon (34)
Register Type: Parish Register

He gave his address as 26 Rodway Road, Roehampton. Hers was The Vicarage, Harrow.
Service conducted by Evelyn Morton. Witnesses Alexander Keith Carlyon (brides father & JP), and what looks like Annie Morton.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Jun 2018 11:09

Probate
Cyril Evelyn Morton
Death Date: 27 Jul 1932
Death Place: Coventry, West Midlands, England
Probate Date: 2 Nov 1932
Registry: London, England

MORTON the very reverend Cyril Evelyn Morton of The Provosts House Coventry clerk died 27 July 1932 at Leamington Spa. Probate to Dorothy May Morton, widow. £7928 12s

EDIT - posted earlier on page 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2018 11:05

Yes, that's the correct family.

This pdf ( a Google search result) mentions Winifred Annie's husband and his extended family:

religion in the extended family - Fiddian Family History
paulfiddian.co.uk/.../RELIGION%20IN%20THE%20EXTENDED%20FAMILY.pdf
Priest was Rev James Rowland Fiddian born in 1873 at Creswick, Victoria, ... Morton whose father was the Rev Evelyn Howard Morton an Anglican born in.....

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Jun 2018 11:03

Could this be the son of Evelyn Morton who died in 1914?


DEATH OF A PROVOST The Rev. Cvril Evelyn Morton. Provost of Coventry Cathedral, died suddenly from heart failure in a Leamington nursing home to day. He was 46 years age. Installed Sub-Dean of Coventry Cathedral and instituted rector of St. Michael's in September 1929, he became Provost and Proctor in Convocation last year.

27 July 1932 - Gloucestershire Echo - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

There's 2 columns about his funeral service in Coventry Herald 05 August 1932.
It took place at 11.30am at Coventry Cathedral.
His coffin had the details of his birth & death
Cyril Evelyn Morton, First Provost of Coventry Cathedral born 28 November 1885 died 27th July 1932.

Family mourners listed as
Mrs Morton (widow0
Mr & Mrs Fiddian (brother in law & sister)
Mr D Pellatt (Uncle)
Sir Alexander Carlyon (father in law)
Miss Carlyon (sister in law)
Colonel & Mrs Carlyon (brother in law & sister in law)
Major and Mrs C C R Neville and Miss E Smallwood (the Provosts Secretary)
There isn’t a relationship recorded against Major & Mrs Neville’s names.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2018 10:57

David Frederick Bradley.
Adm. pens. at Christ's [College] 18 Jan 1871.
Son of David, gent.
Born June 2 1851, Derby.
School: Derby. Matriculated Lent 1871.
BA 1875. MA 1878.
Ordained deacon (Oxford) 1874, priest 1875.
Curate of Banbury, Oxford 1874-6.
Rector of Sawtrey All Saints with St Andrew's, Hunts 1876-1886.
Vicar of Yeadon, Yorkshire 1886-1910.
Died suddenly August 11 1910, at Brighton.


https://tinyurl.com/y7n7knt6

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Jun 2018 10:44

Eliza (Bradley) death one line report in

Lincolnshire Standard and Boston Guardian 16 November 1929
Spalding - Eliza Bradley, 78

Valerie

Valerie Report 25 Jun 2018 09:32

Many thanks to you all for all this info the next few days taken care of while I file it all :-) :-) :-) you are all Great
Val

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jun 2018 21:40

Same again for Eliza -

Probate - Bradley Eliza of 19 Pennygate Spalding Lincolnshire widow died 9 November 1929 Administration Oxford 21 December to Frank Pellatt Solicitor

Name: Age at Death (in years):
BRADLEY, ELIZA 78 Order
GRO Reference: 1929 D Quarter in SPALDING Volume 07A Page 407

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jun 2018 21:34

Not finding Annie on the 1939 register so -

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk - free to use

Probate - just worked through the Annie Morton deaths from 1911 onwards and got to this one. -

Probate - Morton Anne of Billing Road Northampton widow died 18 January 1936 Administration London 25 April to Winifred Annie Fiddian (wife of Cedric Moulton Fiddian)

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https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

so probably this death -

Name: Age at Death (in years):
MORTON, ANNIE 75 Order
GRO Reference: 1936 M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON AND HARDINGSTONE Volume 03B Page 32

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jun 2018 19:55

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Vicarage & St Johns Church, Church Street, Yeadon, Wharfedale, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
David F Bradley Head Married Male 49 1852 Derby, Derbyshire, England Clergyman Of Church Of England
Eliza Bradley Wife Married Female 49 1852 Bodicote, Oxfordshire, England -
Mary E Skirrow Servant Single Female 28 1873 Yeadon, Yorkshire, England Cook Domestic

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
11 Park Road Spalding, Spalding, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Eliza Bradley Head Widow Female 59 1852 Banbury Oxfordshire Private Means
Susannah Jennings - Single Female 36 1875 Spalding Lincolnshire Companion
Mary Compton Servant Single Female 17 1894 Gosberton Lincolnshire General Servant Domestic

Mistakenly completed married 34 years

As you know David died 1910
Probate - Bradley reverend David Frede(with will limited) London 13 october to Frank Pellatt solicitor

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jun 2018 19:49

Eliza in 1881 -

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Rectory House, Sawtry All Saints, Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
David Fredk Bradley Head Married Male 29 1852 Derbyshire, England Rector Of Sawtry All Saints With Sawtry St Andrews
Eliza Bradley Wife Married Female 29 1852 Bodicote, Oxfordshire, England Rectors Wife
Mary Ann Knibb Servant Widow Female 31 1850 Huntingdonshire, England Domestic & Cook
Maud Bowland Servant Single Female 47 1834 Huntingdonshire, England Domestic & Housemaid

Not finding them 1891

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jun 2018 19:44

Going by name of his widow shown in probate record - ?

First name(s) CYRIL E
Last name MORTON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1913
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ CYRIL E MORTON married
Dorothey M Carlyon
Spouse's last name Carlyon
District Hendon
District number -
County Middlesex
Country England
Volume 3A
Volume as transcribed 3A
Page number 527
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

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No births showing to marriage on freebmd

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Jun 2018 19:35

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) WINIFRED A
Last name FIDDIAN
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1888
Age 79
Death quarter 3
Death year 1967
District Bury St. Edmunds
County Suffolk
Volume 4B
Page 935

Probate - Fiddian Winifred Annie of The Planche Nursing Home, Thurston Bury St Edmunds died 2 July 1967 Probate 15 November to wWliam Evelyn Harold Fiddian agricultural scientist. effects --------

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Just the one birth shows on freebmd

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
Fiddian William E Morton Worcester 6c 217

1939 register - entries transcribed separately

Household (1 Person)
Kings College School West Road , Cambridge M.B., Cambridgeshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Winifred A Fiddian 31 Jan 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 113 1

Also there Cedric M Fiddian 28.2.1890 Prep School Headmaster - also noted as Air Raid Warden
Edward GB Allen 4 MAr 193 At School
1 Closed record

malyon

malyon Report 24 Jun 2018 19:33

daniel married again to jessie

Daniel Parker Pellatt
England, Surrey Parish Registers, 1536-1992
Name: Daniel Parker Pellatt
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Jul 1880
Event Place: Kennington, Surrey, England, United Kingdom
Age: 57
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Year (Estimated): 1823
Father's Name: Daniel Pellatt
Spouse's Name: Jessie Mackay
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 37
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1843
Spouse's Father's Name: Angus Mackay