Find Ancestors

Hello Can anyone help please I have the Riley Family in 1901 Irish census but can not seem to find them anywhere in England as it says the father and children were born in England and the mother was born in Dublin

Bernard Riley 45 born Warrington England Head
Mary Ann Riley 45 born Dublin Wife
Mary Agnes Riley 18 Born England Daughter
Joseph Riley 16 Born England Son
Robert Rodgers 21 Born Antrim ... son in law
Jane Rodgers 22 born England Manchester
William Rodgers 8 months Belfast Grand son
I have found the child William on the Irish Geneology site but finding it hard to find the others any help or advice would be a great help many thanks TIA
Nellie

I can't seem to find any further information either Nellie.

:-(

I had a Connell who said he was born in England but was in fact born Ireland.

Also on records he was Connel, Connell and O'connell

perhaps this could be the case with your Riley ones. Reilly, Riley or O'Riley/Reilly

could only find this bernard

Bernard Riley
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Bernard Riley
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 15 May 1856
Birthplace: HIGH CHURCH,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Bernard Riley
Mother's Name: Catherine Mcaulay

Have you got Bernards marriage certificate ?

Jane Riley
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Jane Riley
Residence Place: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 1879
Christening Date (Original): 04 MAY 1879
Christening Place: ST. MARY, BLACKBURN, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
Birth Date: 1878
Father's Name: John Riley
Mother's Name: Mary Ann

Jane Riley married Robert Rodgers in Belfast in 1900:

Party 1 Name ROBERT RODGERS
Party 2 Name JANE REILLY
Date of Event 03 June 1900
Group Registration ID 2439219
SR District/Reg Area Belfast

He was a 21 yr old bachelor, labourer of 51 Byron St, Belfast, father was Henry Rodgers, bricklayer.

Jane Riley was aged 20, spinster, carder, of 31 Chatham St, Belfast, father Bernard Riley, labourer.

Witnesses David Lamour or Lamouck and Margaret Anne Riley.

The marriage took place in the parish church of St Anne's, Belfast.

could it be that bernard was not the childrens father

Jane states Bernard Riley is her father on the marriage register.

Mary Ann Riley and her widowed son Joseph are living with Mary Ann's daughter Jane Rodgers and the Rodgers family in the Irish census of 1911. The Rileys are described as Catholic, thought Robert Rodgers is C of E.

So I guess we should be looking at Catholic records for the Rileys.


Residents of a house 8 in Oakfield Street (Clifton, Antrim)

Rodgers Robert 30 Male Head of Family C of England Co Antrim General Labourer Read and write - Married - 10 2 1
Rodgers Jane 30 Female Wife Roman Catholic England - Read and write - Married - 10 2 1
Rodgers William 9 Male Son Roman Catholic Belfast City Scholars Read and write - Single - - - -
Reilly Mary Ann 61 Female Mother in Law Roman Catholic Co Dublin - Read - Married - 39 12 4
Reilly Joseph 25 Male Brother in Law Roman Catholic England General Labourer Read and write - Widower - 6 3 2
Reilly Thomas Male Nephew Roman Catholic Belfast City - Cannot read

Nephew Thomas Reilly on the census 1911 above, is the son of Joseph Riley who is widowed by census 1911:

Name THOMAS REILLY
Date of Birth 26 September 1910
Group Registration ID 591485
SR District/Reg Area Belfast
Sex Male
Mother's Birth Surname MONAGHAN

The register image says his father is Joseph Reilly of 16 Oakfield St (matches the census 1911 address), a labourer, and Mother is Margaret Reilly nee Monaghan.

If Bernard was born in Warrington (though can't see it) and Jane in Manchester, it's probably a reasonable bet that Joseph was also born in Lancashire, 1884-5.

There are these two possible Reilly births:

REILLY, JOSEPH mms KILLROY
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 593

REILLY, JOSEPH mms BYRNE
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 559

However, there are also quite a number of Joseph Riley births in Lancashire 1884-5

Marriage of Joseph Reilly and Margaret Monaghan

Party 1 Name JOSEPH REILLY
Party 2 Name MARGARET MONAGHAN
Date of Event 07 April 1904
Group Registration ID 1947362
SR District/Reg Area Belfast

Joseph Reilly labourer of 60 Butler St, son of BERNARD Reilly, labourer.
Margaret Monaghan of 44 Butler St daur of Patrick Monaghan postman.

Margaret died on 26th Dec 1910:

Name MARGARET REILLY
Year of Death 1910
Group Registration ID 5150170
SR District/Reg Area Belfast
Deceased Age at Death 26

Died at 51, Lisburn Rd. Aged 26 years. Married, wife of Joseph Reilly a labourer. Died of pulmonary tuberculosis certified. Death reported by Joseph Reilly widower of the deceased, present at the death 16 Oakfield St.


EDIT: 51 Lisburn Rd where Margaret died was a workhouse and is now the site of Belfast City Hospital.

???

RILEY, BERNARD mms HOLLAND
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 533

REILLY, BERNARD mms MORAN
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 89

REILLY, BERNARD JAMES mm PIGOTT
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 210

Thank you everyone I have a lot to look through now and half a chance of finding one of them Thank you again for your help
Nellie

Don't know if you've looked into this Bernard- listed as born Bolton, but living in Warrington:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Town Hill, Warrington, Lancashire & Cheshire, England

Patrick Riley Head Married Male 33 1828 Tailor Ireland
Bridget Riley Wife Married Female 34 1827 - Ireland
Thomas Riley Son Single Male 11 1850 - Ireland
Bernard Riley Son Single Male 8 1853 - Bolton, England
Annie Riley Daughter Single Female 6 1855 - Bolton, England
Patrick Riley Son Single Male 3 1858 - Warrington, Lancashire, England
William Borsley Visitor Single Male 37 1824 Shoe Maker Ireland
------------------------------

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hill Street, Warrington, Lancashire & Cheshire, England

Patrick Riley Head - Male 40 1831 - Ireland
Thomas Riley Son - Male 21 1850 - Ireland
Bernard Riley Son - Male 18 1853 - Lancashire, England
Frances Riley Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Lancashire, England
Patrick Riley Son - Male 11 1860 - Lancashire, England

Interesting???


When Joseph Reilly married Margaret Monaghan in 1904, his address was 60 Butler Street Belfast.

I found this marriage the following year.:

Party 1 Name JOHN MCCULLY
Party 2 Name MARY REILLY
Date of Event 23 April 1905
Group Registration ID 1984751
SR District/Reg Area Belfast

The bride is Mary AGNES Reilly, of full age, of 60 BUTLER St, but her father is THOMAS Reilly deceased labourer, not Bernard. Yet her mother Mary Ann Reilly is described as married in 1911 when she is living with the Rodgers family and widowed son Joseph.

No Reilly witnesses.

Just throwing it out there in case Bernard was sometimes known as Thomas...

John McCully is a labourer of 93 or 95 Butler Street.

The 1911 census shows Mary Agnes Mc Cully nee Reilly to be aged 28 and born England, so she does seem to be the right Mary Agnes Reilly.

Residents of a house 83 in Palmer Street (Shankill, Antrim)

McCully John 31 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Belfast General Labourer Read and write - Married - 6 - -
McCully Mary Agnes 28 Female Wife Roman Catholic England

So there is a possibility that Bernard might be also known as Thomas?

On Mary's death in 1918 she is listed as the Widow of Bernard

Name MARY ANN REILLY
Year of Death 1918
Group Registration ID 5622773
SR District/Reg Area Belfast
Deceased Age at Death 66
Widow of Bernard Reilly, labourer
Abode: 15 Oakfield Street
Informant: Jane Rodgers, daughter

Found the service record for Joseph- states he was born in Blackpool:

First name(s) Joseph
Last name Reilly
Birth year 1885
Birth parish Kirkham
Birth town Blackpool
Birth county Lancashire
Birth country England
Service number 681
Regiment Royal Army Medical Corps
Year 1902
Attestation date 14 May 1902
Attestation age years 17
Attestation age months 10
Attestation service number 681
Attestation corps R A M C M
Document type Attestation
Discharged: 1908
Next of kin: Father: Bernard, 48 Chatham St. Belfast