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Thanks for the info for Robert . Glad he was not found to be previously married.though it is strange it says on the Burnley in the great war site that Robert was in the London field ambulance regiment :-S

Oh good . Glad it's not complicated . Just strange how they have him down as in the London field ambulance on Burnley in the great war , nit sure if the above service record contradicts that . They gave the same service number though. But at least we know that this other Robert has the middle name Isaac. Thanks for that .

This appears to be the Robert I Gregory who married Elsie Fox.

Robert I Gregory on the 1939 Register

Gregory Household (6 People)
1 Riversdale Road , Romford M.B., Essex, England

Robert I Gregory 18 May 1884 Male Fireman Porter,Football Married 61 1
Elsie Gregory 08 Sep 1891 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 61 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Jean A Gregory 17 Mar 1922 Female Dress Alteration Han Single 61 4
Josephine D Green (Gregory) 20 Jan 1924 Female Junior Clerk, Furni Offc Single 61 5
David G (R) Gregory 07 Jul 1932 Male At School Single 61 6


Josephine's birth reg.....

Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Gregory Josephine D Fox W.Ham 4a 119

And...

Births Sep 1932 (>99%)
Gregory David G R Fox W.Ham 4a 52


Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
Gregory Robert Isaac Pancras 1b 73

Medal Index Cards Transcription

First name(s) Robert I
Last name Gregory
Year 1914-20
Service number 35161, 207276
Second service number 207276 <<<<<<
Rank Driver,Driver
Second rank Driver
Regiment Royal Army Service Corps, Royal Engineers
Second corps Royal Engineers
Service record Soldier Number: 35161, Rank: Driver, Corps: Royal Army Service Corps
Second service record Soldier Number: 207276, Rank: Driver, Corps: Royal Engineers
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2451615
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Archive reference WO372/8
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Medal rolls and honours
Collections from Great Britain, UK None


Robert I Gregory in the UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920

Name: Robert I Gregory
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Driver
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Engineers
Regimental Number: 207276
Previous Units: R.A.S.C. 35161 Dvr., Royal Engineers 207276

Is there anyone able to check his service number 207276 for the London field ambulance ? :-)

Robert ingham Gregory was in the first world war in the London field ambulance . Does this mean he perhaps joined up in London ? This may explain the west ham connection if it is actually him marrying elsie fox. The births of children with m.m.n fox in west ham ended in 1924 . So wonder if this is when he returned to Burnley ...uf it is actually him. Interesting. May be jumping the gun but woukd be great if this was correct . :-) :-D :-S

Found a few births in west ham that could have been the children of that marriage.. Will check this out . :-S

Interesting find , that other wedding. . He was in a London regiment i think at one point in the first world war . I'll check that. Wonder if there were any children born from this marriage . Not as,easy to check as not in Lancashire . Is there a way if checking if this Robert i Gregory and elsie fox had children ? :-S

from lancs bmd ...........

they married either at the Registry Office or a non-conforming church where the Register had to be present (eg Roman Catholic)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1924

GREGORY Robert Ingham HARGREAVES Evelyn Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/211/41


I wonder if one, either or both had been married before, as that would be a reason for them to marry in a Registry Office. Robert is old enough to have been in WW1, and there were many wartime marriages.

I found this on Freebmd ..............

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)

Fox Elsie Gregory W.Ham 4a 143
Gregory Robert I Fox W.Ham 4a 143

Possible?????

Eveline was baptised as Evelyn ..............

from lancs opc

Baptism: 10 Jan 1901 St Matthew the Apostle, Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England
Evelyn Hargreaves - [Child] of James Edward Hargreaves & Elizabeth
Abode: 5 Clock St
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: S. Edmund Clarke
Register: Baptisms 1896 - 1904, Page 61, Entry 486
Source: Original Parish Register

Shirley ............

The 1939 Register does NOT contain information on where someone was born.

It is concerned only with full names, ages, residence as of that date, marital status because it was meant to be used as the basis for issuing Identity Cards.


Another thing to remember is that many people gave the wrong birth years .............. the DATE and MONTH are usually correct, but the year may be changed, either accidentally or deliberately.

James Edward Hargreaves in the Lancashire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: James Edward Hargreaves.....Bachelor (Miner) 35 Back Lane
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1877
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Apr 1897
Parish: Burnley, St Matthew, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Heaton.....Spinster (Weaver)
Spouse Age: 18
Father: James Hargreaves (Deceased)
Spouse Father: Briggs Heaton (Fireman)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: William Wright and Rachel Dunn

Parents' marriage :

Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
Hargreaves James Edward Burnley 8e 446
Heaton Elizabeth Burnley 8e 446


James Edward Hargreaves
in the 1911 England Census
Name: James Edward Hargreaves
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 224 Cog Lane Burnley <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer
Registration district: Burnley
Registration District Number: 472
Sub-registration district: West Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 24842
Household Members:
Name Age
James Edward Hargreaves 34
Elizbeth Hargreaves 32
Elizbeth Ann Hargreaves 13
George Stephen Hargreaves 11
Evelyn Hargreaves 10 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Reacel Hargreaves 6
Florence Hargreaves 3
Minnie Hargreaves


Her marriage cert will verify her father's name.

NOTE -

the Gregory family lived at 230 Cog Lane in 1911. (Posted earlier by PH.)

And Robert and Evelyn were still in Cog Lane in 1939.

Assuming the DOB at death and in 1939 is correct:

???

HARGREAVES, EVELINE mms HEATON
GRO Reference: 1901 M Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 166

could be this one reg late as born in december 1899 so reg in january 1900

Mar 1900 (>99%)
Hargreaves Evelyn Dewsbury 9b 689

or this one different spelling eveline

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Hargreaves Eveline Burnley 8e 223

the death 1975 says 16th dec 1900 as on the 1939 reg

I'm wondering if there was a mistake on the 1939 census and maybe she is the one born in tidmorden in Dec 1901 . ? :-)

Hi
Is,anyone able to find a birth for Evelyn. On the 1939 census does it say where she was born please,? She was born December 1900 but not sure where . :-S

Deaths Jun 1975 (>99%)
GREGORY EVELYN 16DE1900 BURNLEY/PEN 40 1044

Hi
Is,anyone able to find a birth for Evelyn. On the 1939 census does it say where she was born please,? She was born December 1900 but not sure where . :-S