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Hello, can anyone help in the above census.

Tamar Pickering marries Nicholas Hodgson 24 Feb 1835 at Bishop Wearmouth Sunderland. Nicholas born 1815 at Aycliffe, Co Durham and Tamar born 1813 Bishop Wearmouth Sunderland.

This is the 1841 census, Norfolk Street Bishop Wearmouth

Nicholas 25/29
Tamar 25/29

Her name has been transcribed as Thamar and Thamas on the birth of her children who are Nicholas Pickering Hodgson (dies in infancy), John Pickering Hodgson, Mary Hodgson, Nicholas, William and Richard although not sure about Richard. Tamar dies 1870.

I cannot find Nicholas or Tamar on the 1851 or 1861 census. I can't find a death for Nicholas either. The only info I am looking for are the two census.

Thank you.

1841 for ref

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Norfolk Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Nicholas Hodgson Male 25 1816 Durham, England
Transcription
Tamar Hodgson Female 25 1816 Durham, England

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1861 ...

Name:
Tamar Hodgson

Age:
82

Estimated Birth Year:
1779

Relation:
Head

Gender:
Female

Where born:
Alston, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish:
Castle Carrock

County/Island:
Cumberland

:
Registration district:
Brampton

Sub-registration district:
Hayton


Tamar Hodgson 82
Elizabeth Hodgson 15 ...granddaughter

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TAMER
Last name HODGSON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1846
District Weardale
County Durham
Volume 24
Page 246
Country England

Hello Maddie/Mike - unfortunately the ages are out for both of the above.

what do you make of this
is it a relative
TAMAR HODGSON
Last name PICKERING
Gender Unknown
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1863
District Sunderland
County Durham
Volume 10A
Page 289
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

How strange Maddie. I can see the birth for June Q 1860 on FBD but I can't find it on the GRO. I wonder if Nicholas had died and Tamar was born 1860 and Tamar snr gave Tamar jnr her maiden name. Can't find Tamar jnr on 1861 census.

From a family tree ....

check it out


Residence

1851 • Thorney Close, Durham, England

Tamars Husband Nicholas was working as a servant on an Estate at Thorney Close, known as Gentlemen's Houses.


1851 - 38



Employment

1861 • Sunderland
Seamstress


1861 - 48

Residence
1861 • 18 Waterworks Road, Sunderland


1861 - 48



Death

1870 • Sunderland, Durham, United Kingdom

Age: 57

This is from a tree on Ancestry:

Fact Details
?21 Apr 1858
?Calcutta, India

At Calcutta, in the General Hospital, lately, Mr. Nicholas Hodgson, aged 42, for many years coachman with the late Richard White, Esq., Sunderland.(Durham Chronicle, 16 November 1860)

Richard White Hodgson
England Births and Christenings
Name Richard White Hodgson
Residence Place Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham, England
Gender Male
Christening Date 28 Sep 1845
Christening Date (Original) 28 Sep 1845
Christening Place Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham, England
Birth Date 28 Aug 1845
Father's Name Nicholas Hodgson
Mother's Name Tamar Hodgson

This family related???

Name: Richard R Hodgson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Jane Hodgson
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlington, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Bishop Auckland
Ecclesiastical parish: Auckland St Andrew
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Bishop Auckland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 11f
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 184
Piece: 2385
Folio: 322
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Hodgson 45
Robert Hodgson 19
Tamar Les Hodgson 16
John Hodgson 13
William Hodgson 7
Richard R Hodgson 4


Andy

Thank you all, I wonder what Nicholas was doing in India. He maybe called his son after his employer, Richard White. I've only got family search and the search criteria for the census isn't very good, doesn't seem to work when I put a postal address in (unless I'm not very good and am missing something). I am going to google Richard White to see what it brings up.

Richard White, Esq, Thorney Lodge, Sunderland, was on the Provisional Committee for the Newcastle, Durham and Lancashire Junction Railway Company.

https://tinyurl.com/y92wky2h


His brother Andrew was first Mayor of Sunderland, and Richard was also Mayor in 1840.

https://northeastlore.com/category/sunderland/

Scroll down to the final article, headed "First Mayor of Sunderland". Richard is also mentioned.

this is tamar jr birth --- not sure what to make of it, seems to be unrelated
TAMER HODGSON
Last name PICKERING
Birth year 1860
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Tongs ---------------
District Sunderland
County Durham
Country England
Volume 10A
Page 451
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England


First name(s) JOHN
Last name PICKERING
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1840
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOHN PICKERING married one of these people
Jane Sharp, Isabella Richardson, Susannah Ash, Charlotte Tongs
District Sunderland
District number -
County Durham
Country England
Volume 24
Volume as transcribed 24
Page number 285

1861

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
23, Burleigh Street, Sunderland, Durham, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Pickering Head Married Male 42 1819 Shipwright Sunderland, Durham, England
Transcription
Charlotte Pickering Wife Married Female 40 1821 - Sunderland, Durham, England
Transcription
Mary Pickering Daughter - Female 19 1842 - Sunderland, Durham, England
Transcription
Sarah Pickering Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 - Sunderland, Durham, England
Transcription
John Pickering Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Shipwright Sunderland, Durham, England
Transcription
Richard Pickering Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Sunderland, Durham, England
Transcription
Charlotte Pickering Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Sunderland, Durham, England
Transcription
Roger Pickering Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Sunderland, Durham, England
Transcription
Tamar Pickering Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Sunderland, Durham, England -----------------------------

Just for the record - the death related to the tree info posted by MargaretM:

Nicholas Hodgson
in the India, Select Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948
Name: Nicholas Hodgson
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Birth Date: 1816
Death Date: 21 Apr 1858
Burial Date: 22 Apr 1858
Burial Place: Fort William, Bengal, India
FHL Film Number: 498996


In 1841 Nicholas is a coachman. Maybe he moved on from that to engines, and maybe was in India in connection with railways ??

The 1850's were a time of great railway expansion in India, and Richard White was involved with railways..

http://www.victorianweb.org/technology/railways/india/introduction.html

Thanks Argyll, and Maddie

I can imagine Nicholas dying of dysentry or maybe he was caught in the aftermath of the Indian mutiny, who knows.

I also don't know what to make of Charlotte's daughter's name although John Pickering is Tamar's brother but still doesn't explain why they would give Tamar's married name to their daughter.

Going back to the 1851 and 1861 census addresses posted by Mike, none of the sites I have access to allows the address to be put in. I seem to recall FMP let you search by address. Is this facility still available? If so, could either of you try it (if you have subs) - thank you.

It looks as though Richard White Hodgson eventually dies in the workhouse in Sunderland in 1913.

Details of Nicholas who died in 1858 in India from looking at the image from British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Deaths & Burials Transcription

Nicholas died of chronic dysentry. He was a seaman on the ship 'Arethusa.' He was buried in the Military Burial Grounds of Fort William in Calcutta.


Where are his and Tamar's children in 1841? It is only the 2 of them in the census record?

This is where that address comes from.


England Deaths and Burials 1538-1991 Transcription
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First name(s) Tamar
Last name Hodgson
Gender Male
Marital status Unknown
Occupation -
Event year 1870
Birth year 1813
Age at death 57y
Death place England
Burial year 1870
Burial date 12 Apr 1870
Burial place Durham County
Cemetery Bishopwearmouth Parish
Street address 18 Water Works Road
Place Bishop-Wearmouth

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james should read tamar


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, Waterworks Road West Side, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Hooper Head Widow Female 48 1813 Seamstress Sunderland, Durham, England
Transcription
Richard White Hooper Son - Male 15 1846 Labourer Sunderland, Durham, England

1861 Census
2 Records found


Piece: RG9/3767 Place: N Bishop-Wearmouth -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth Ecclesiastical Parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Folio: 22 Page: 44 Schedule: 267
Address: 2 Waterworks Road

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HOSPON Tamar Head W F 48 Seamstress Co. Durham - Sunderland
HOPSON Richard White Son - M 15 Labourer Co. Durham - Sunderland