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31 Jul 2018 04:30 |
I am trying to find how Sarah Cox ties into the family Day/Venner, I understand Sarah and George were the propretor of Stalactite Cavern in the 1851 Census and they had many children... Did one of their daughters marry a Venner??? Was Sarah a Day before she married George Cox????
maybe there is no connection but I have always been told as a young child they are connected way back!!!!!!
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31 Jul 2018 07:43 |
1851 cemsus
Name: George Cox Event Type: Census Event Date: 1851 Event Place: Cheddar, Somerset, England Registration District: Axbridge Gender: Male Age: 51 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Proprietor Of Stalactite Cavern Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birth Year (Estimated): 1800 Birthplace: Cheddar, Somerset Page Number: 31 Registration Number: HO107 Piece/Folio: 1937 / 196 Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace George Cox Head Male 51 Cheddar, Somerset Sarah Cox Wife Female 49 Bristol, Somerset Lydia Cox Daug Female 16 Cheddar, Somerset Matilda Cox Daug Female 15 Cheddar, Somerset George Cox Son Male 23 Cheddar, Somerset Edward Cox Son Male 12 Cheddar, Somerset Charles Cox Son Male 7 Cheddar, Somerset James Stradfield Cox Son Male 2 Cheddar, Somerset Richard Cox Visitor Male 62 Cheddar, Somerset Maria Cooper Servant Female 21 Cheddar, Somerset
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31 Jul 2018 07:53 |
Sarah's maiden name looks to be Gough.
COX, JAMES STREATFIELD GOUGH Order GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in AXBRIDGE UNION Volume 10 Page 338
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31 Jul 2018 08:00 |
Record set Somerset Marriage Index First name(s) Sarah Sex Female Last name Gough Marriage year 1824 Spouse's first name(s) George Spouse's last name Cox Parish Bedminster Denomination Anglican County Somerset Country England Document type Parish records Page 250 Marital status spinster Residence Bedminster Marriage date 03 Aug 1824 Church St John the Baptist Spouse's residence Chedder, Somerset Spouse's occupation Miller By licence or by banns Licence First witness Thomas Gough Second witness Harriet Gough Archive Somerset Archives Archive reference P/St.JBed/R/3/7 Record type Marriages Record's year range 1819-1825 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain © Findmypast
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31 Jul 2018 08:09 |
Their marriage
County Somerset Place (with link) Bedminster Church name (with link) Bedminster-St John the Baptist Register type (with link) Bishop's Transcripts Register entry number 750 Marriage date 03 Aug 1824 Groom forename George Groom surname COX Groom parish Cheddar in the County of Somerset Groom occupation Miller Bride forename Sarah Bride surname GOUGH Bride parish of this parish Bride condition spinster Witness1 forename Thomas Witness1 surname GOUGH Witness2 forename Harriet Witness2 surname GOUGH Notes Bishops Transcript; Licence
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31 Jul 2018 08:15 |
Same family in 1841
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Clifts, Cheddar, Axbridge, Somerset, England
George Cox Male 40 1801 Somerset, England Sarah Cox Female 39 1802 Somerset, England Sarah Cox Female 15 1826 Somerset, England George Cox Male 13 1828 Somerset, England Louisa Cox Female 10 1831 Somerset, England Lydia Cox Female 6 1835 Somerset, England Matilda Cox Female 4 1837 Somerset, England Edward Cox Male 2 1839 Somerset, England John Cox Male 0 1841 Somerset, England Eliza Cox Female 17 1824 Somerset, England Sarah Lakins Female 21 1820 Somerset, England
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KathleenBell
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31 Jul 2018 10:13 |
This is the only Cox/Venner marriage I can see around that time:-
First name(s) CHARLES Last name COX Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1859 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ CHARLES COX married one of these people Margaret Wilson, Elizabeth Venner District Bristol District number - County Gloucestershire Country England Volume 6A Volume as transcribed 6A Page number 116 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
EDIT - no, this isn't George and Sarah's son Charles as he is still single in 1861.
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31 Jul 2018 10:18 |
Same family in 1861:-
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cliffs Hotel, Cliffs, Cheddar, Axbridge, Somerset, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Cox Head Married Male 61 1800 Proprietor Of Stalaclite Caven Cliffs Hotel Cheddar, Somerset, England Sarah Cox Wife Married Female 60 1801 Lydia Cox Daughter Unmarried Female 26 1835 - Cheddar, Somerset, England Matilda Cox Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1836 - Cheddar, Somerset, England Edward Cox Son Unmarried Male 22 1839 Draper Cheddar, Somerset, England John Wesley Cox Son Unmarried Male 20 1841 Miller Cheddar, Somerset, England Charles Cox Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Scholar Cheddar, Somerset, England James S Cox Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Cheddar, Somerset, England Emily Withers Servant Unmarried Female 16 1845 House Servant Cheddar, Somerset, England
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31 Jul 2018 10:25 |
Marriage of Harriet, the witness at Sarah's marriage? Perhaps she was Sarah's sister?
Somerset Marriage Index First name(s) Harriet Sex Female Last name Gough Marriage year 1825 Spouse's first name(s) George Rodney Spouse's last name Manler Parish Bedminster Denomination Anglican County Somerset Country England Document type Parish records Page 298 Marital status spinster Residence Bedminster Marriage date 21 May 1825 Church St John the Baptist Spouse's marital status bachelor Spouse's residence Bedcliffe Bristol By licence or by banns Licence First witness Thos Gough Second witness T S Counrell Third witness Matilda Manley Fourth witness Mary Cox Archive Somerset Archives Archive reference P/St.JBed/R/3/7 Record type Marriages Record's year range 1819-1825 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain © Findmypast
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31 Jul 2018 10:53 |
Brother of Sarah?
Record set Somerset Marriage Index First name(s) James Sex Male Last name Gough Marriage year 1824 Spouse's first name(s) Lydia Spouse's last name Cox Parish Cheddar Denomination Anglican County Somerset Country England Document type Bishop's transcripts Page 34 Marital status bachelor Residence Bedminster Marriage date ? Dec 1824 Spouse's marital status spinster Spouse's residence Cheddar By licence or by banns Licence First witness Harriet Gough Second witness George Cox Third witness Mary Cox Archive Somerset Archives Archive reference D/D/RR 92A Record type Baptisms, marriages & burials Record's year range 1813-1832 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain © Findmypast
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ErikaH
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31 Jul 2018 13:19 |
Here's where to look for info about who married whom
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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ErikaH
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31 Jul 2018 13:22 |
The child's birth posted above was from the following site
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
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ErikaH
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31 Jul 2018 13:28 |
Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
COX James Streatfield Cardiff 11a 448 Duncan Anne Cardiff 11a 448
Deaths Dec 1904 (>99%) COX James Streatfield 55 Axbridge 5c 315
COX, STREATFIELD DUNCAN (MMN)DUNCAN GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in AXBRIDGE Volume 05C Page 607
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ErikaH
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31 Jul 2018 13:29 |
We can't realistically hope to help you with finding a link unless you give us details of the 'other' family.
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Maddie
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31 Jul 2018 15:31 |
fuller version
Name Charles Cox Birth Date 1839 Age 20 Spouse's Name Elizabeth Venner Spouse's Birth Date 1841 Spouse's Age 18 Event Date 1859 Event Place St. Philip And St. Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, Eng Father's Name Edwin Cox Spouse's Father's Name Joseph Venner Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch
Charles Last name Cox Sex Male Baptism year 1839 Baptism date 15 Sep 1839 Baptism place Bristol, St Michael the Archangel on the Mount, Gloucestershire, England Father's first name(s) Edwin Father's last name Cox Mother's first name(s) Martha Mother's last name Cox Place Bristol, St Michael the Archangel on the Mount Town Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England
1841 Griffin Lane, St Michael, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Edwin Cox Male 25 1816 Somerset, England Transcription Martha Cox Female 25 1816 Somerset, England Transcription Frances Cox Female 6 1835 Somerset, England Transcription Edwin Cox Male 4 1837 Somerset, England Transcription Charles Cox Male 2 1839 Somerset, England Transcription Thomas Russell Male 20 1821 - Transcription Henry Hewlett Male 15 1826 -
Edwin Last name Cox Gender Male Birth year 1815 Birth place - Baptism year 1816 Baptism date 25 Aug 1816 Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Father's first name(s) George Father's last name Cox Mother's first name(s) Frances
George Last name Cox Birth year - Baptism year 1799 Baptism date 17 Nov 1799 Denomination Anglican Place Cheddar County Somerset Country England Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Cox Mother's first name(s) Mary Event type Baptisms, marriages & burials Archive Somerset Archives Document type Bishop's transcripts Archive reference D/D/RR 92 Year range 1601-1812 Record set Somerset Baptism Index
two different families ????
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31 Jul 2018 16:24 |
An aside, but wonder whether Sarah Gough is related to the Richard Gough that Gough's cave in Cheddar Gorge is named after?
EDIT: Richard was actually named Richard Cox Gough.
EDIT 2: A Richard Cox Gough was baptised 1827 Bedminster son of James and Lydia, whose marriage was posted earlier. For some reason I'm getting network errors and can't access the full transcript/record.
From freereg: County Somerset Place (with link) Bedminster Church name (with link) Bedminster-St John the Baptist Register type (with link) Bishop's Transcripts Register entry number 1634 Baptism date 26 Apr 1827 Person forename Richard Cox<<<<<<<<<< Person sex M Father forename James<<<<<<<<<< Mother forename Lydia<<<<<<<<<< Father surname GOUGH<<<<<<<<<< Person abode Mill Lane Father occupation Miller Notes Bishops Transcript
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Vap
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31 Jul 2018 22:48 |
Thank you all, most gratefull hopefully bnow i can make the connection
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rootgatherer
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31 Jul 2018 22:54 |
Vap, can you tell us how you can make the connection now please? Just to satisfy our curiosity. :-)
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31 Jul 2018 23:07 |
Charles Cox m one of the following people Margaret Wilson, Elizabeth Venner 1859. I can now try and find the Venner family connection with the bacon manufacturer in Reading Berks.
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2 Aug 2018 04:02 |
Many thNks for ALL your help, it will take a while to find the connection but any help would be gratefully received. My grandmother m a Butler, she was a Twose, her grandmother was a Venner well known family in Reading but they trace back to somerset i was always told by my grandmother that we had connections with Cheddar Caves. Just trying to find the link!!!!
Thank you all xxxx
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