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You’re probably right, Shirley.

I think I would be inclined to invest in the 1931 death certificate just to rule it out. It is possible that Florence took on another name at baptism or just liked a particular name.
In any case if it is "your" Florence it should say she is "wife of........." on the death certificate and the address might rule it in or out.

Kath. x

I don’t know if G has his parents MC. If he does, I’d imagine his father’s status was widowed. That would tie in with his belief that Florence had died.

So does George Ingram say he is widower when he re married in 1933

Mind you if he was committing bigamy he would most likely lie about his marital status

That’s whom I’d contacted. He said he looked up to Stanley as his big brother & was devastated at his early death.

A tree on ancestry has a photo of Stanley with his stepmum lily and half brother Gordon

Gordon looks about 5 years of age in the photo

According to the son of the 2nd marriage b c 1935, George W married Ethel Lilian “sometime after Florence’s death” .
All he knows is that her dressing table set was given by his father to his own mother & that it remains in the family.

Yes, there is that 1962 death. As you say, it could be an unrelated person.

Thank you, Maryb - the sticking point is that the record is for a Florence Beatrice rather than a straight Florence.

Lets see if Ancestry allows messages to be sent today. Its been a bit flaky recently.

If she did just leave and not die before the second marriage there is this death which could fit:-

First name(s) FLORENCE
Last name INGRAM
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1899
Age 63
Death quarter 4
Death year 1962
District Hammersmith
County London
Volume 5C
Page 815
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials

Kath. x

There are quite a few Ingram marriages in and around London to women with the name Florence B. so the death could be any one of those.

Kath. x

It has at the side of Florence b 31 so born @ 1900 which fits.
On ancestry.co.uk you have to put in search for that death
Florence B Ing??
Died 03/1931
V5a P991
Edmonton.

Maryb

Yes contacting the tree owners is the next step. The Ancestry Tree, the one with loads of photo's, seems to be a different Melton descendent. He may have been told why she disappeared, even if he doesn't know where.

Are you in contact with George and Lily's descendants in the hope that they heard what happened to Florence?
They feature in trees on this site.

Do you know for sure that it was the same George who married both women?

Well the 1931 death cert won't give a date of birth to double check

Maybe the marriage cert fro her fathers name will pinpoint the right Florence birth

Edit. You probably have this already

Florence Coveney
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1899
Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1920
Marriage Place: St James, Upper Edmonton, Enfield, England
Father: John William Coveney
Spouse: George William Ingram
Register Type: Parish Register

One of the witmeses was a Horace Coveney

So he was a brother !!

View 1901 England Census
Name: Florence Coveney
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: John Coveney
Mother: Mary Coveney
Birth Place: Edmonton, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Edmonton
Search Photos: Search for 'Edmonton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1265
Folio: 60
Page Number: 16
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members:
Name Age
John Coveney 50
Mary Coveney 43
John Coveney 20
Edward Coveney 18
Elizabeth Coveney 16
Horace Coveney 12
Minnie Coveney 8
May Coveney 6
Florence Coveney 2

Here's Lily in 1939

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Melton Household (10 People)
45 South Road , Edmonton M.B., Middlesex, England

Lily Ingram
DOB 19 Jul 1905
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 157
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 9

Ernest Melton

Annie Melton

Doris Melton

Edward Melton

Gertrude Christman (Melton)

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Ivy Jaggs (Metlton)

Eric Melton

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Ref: RG101/0743D/012/40 Letter Code:
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Shirley, although it’s possible, it doesn’t ‘feel right’. I’m wondering if she left him & he remarried bigamously after 7 years.

Unfortunately I don’t have Florence BC, nor was she baptised, to know her dob.

There’s loads of Ingrams & Coveneys!

Would be worth getting that 1931 death for its info

Maybe the informant thought she had a second name

The death would fit with the later remarriage of John Ingram

GRO record

INGRAM, FLORENCE BEATRICE 31
GRO Reference: 1931 M Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 991

Kucinta - John William Ingram was named as his father on his MC

Name: George William Ingram
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1897
Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1920
Marriage Place: St James, Upper Edmonton, Enfield, England
Father: John William Ingram
Spouse: Florence Coveney
Register Type: Parish Register

Rootgatherer - re the 1939 register you posted, George William Ingram was a postman on his marriage to Florence in 1920, so looking like a match.

Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
Phillips Donald Ingram Horsham 2b 441

Although I haven't explored the Ingram ancestors, could the Florence M be a sister?
DOB given is 29 Jul 1885.