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Robert Arthur/ Archibald Griffiths

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Sep 2018 18:48

Going back to David's original question -

assuming Robert died in Bangor, these seem to be the options for his burial place:

Gwynedd Cemeteries

To contact the Dwyfor, Arfon or Meirionnydd Cemeteries Offices:
Phone: 01766 771000
E-mail: [email protected]

Gwynedd Council is responsible for the following cemeteries:

Arfon Area
Glanadda Cemetery, Bangor
New Cemetery, Bangor
Llanbeblig Public Cemetery, Caernarfon
Llanfaglan Cemetery Caernarfon
Coetmor Cemetery, Bethesda
Machpellah Cemetery, Deiniolen

Bangor Crematorium
Address: Bangor Crematorium, Llandegai Road, Bangor, LL57 4HP
Phone: 01248 370 500
Fax: 01248 353657

https://tinyurl.com/ycxlht4o


Judging by the crematorium Book of Remembrance, he doesn't appear to have been cremated - unless his family didn't want his name put in the Book:

https://tinyurl.com/y8d65n8c

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Sep 2018 17:35

Some of the family in 1911.

1911 Census For England & Wales

17 Upper Garth Road, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
>>Harold Griffiths Head Married Male 23 1888 Sailor Carnarvonshire Bangor
Muriel Griffiths Wife Married Female 23 1888 - Carnarvonshire Bangor



Same address as mentioned in the MC for Robert Arthur.

1911 Census For England & Wales

32 Upper Garth Road, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales



First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ethelbert Loud Head Married Male 28 1883 Painter Lancaster Newchurch
Elizabeth Lord Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Carnarvon Bangor
John Griffiths Brother-In Law Single Male 35 1876 Boatman And Fisherman Carnarvon Bangor
Llewelyn Griffiths Brother-In Law Single Male 30 1881 Sailor Carnarvon Bangor
William Griffiths Brother-In Law Married Male 26 1885 Yachtsman And Chaffeur To Solicitor Carnarvon Bangor
Margaret Elizabeth Griffiths Sister In Law Married Female 30 1881 - Carnarvon Llanfairfechan

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Sep 2018 17:17

Possible death for John?

JOHN
Last name GRIFFITHS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1829
Age 76
Death quarter 4
Death year 1905
District Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Volume 11B
Page 313

or

JOHN GRIFFITH
Last name GRIFFITHS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1826
Age 80
Death quarter 3
Death year 1906
District Carnarvon
County Caernarvonshire
Volume 11B
Page 265


Maria?

First name(s) MARIA
Last name GRIFFITHS
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1847
Age 60
Death quarter 1
Death year 1907
District Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Volume 11B
Page 354

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Sep 2018 16:56

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Garth Road, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Griffith Head Married Male 62 1829 Boatman Anglesey, Wales
Maria Griffith Wife Married Female 45 1846 - Anglesey, Wales
John Griffith Son Single Male 17 1874 Mariner Anglesey, Wales
? Griffith Son Single Male 15 1876 Mariner Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Arthur Griffith Son Single Male 13 1878 School Caernarvonshire, Wales
Willie Griffith Son Single Male 7 1884 School Caernarvonshire, Wales
Harold Griffith Son Single Male 4 1887 School Caernarvonshire, Wales

The ? is Llewelyn.



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

16, Upper Garth Road, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Griffiths Head Married Male 78 1823 Fisherman Beaumaris, Anglesey, Wales
Maria Griffiths Wife Married Female 57 1844 - Beaumaris, Anglesey, Wales
John Griffiths Son Single Male 26 1875 Fisherman Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Arthur Griffiths Son Single Male 21 1880 Fisherman Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
William Griffiths Son Single Male 17 1884 Fisherman Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Harold Griffiths Son Single Male 15 1886 Fisherman Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Sep 2018 16:47

Now that's looking promising Maddie.

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2018 16:24

siblings
Griffiths Elizabeth 1881 — 1881 Caernarvonshire Baptisms Bangor, Caernarvonshire, WalesGriffiths John 1876 — 1876 Caernarvonshire Baptisms Bangor, Caernarvonshire, WalesGriffiths Mary Ellen 1876 — 1876 Caernarvonshire Baptisms Bangor, Caernarvonshire, WalesGriffiths Llywelyn 1878 — 1878 Caernarvonshire Baptisms Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

1881
16, College Road, Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Griffiths Head Married Male 56 1825 Boatman Beaumaris, Anglesey, Wales
Maria Griffiths Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Beaumaris, Anglesey, Wales
Grace Ann Griffiths Daughter Single Female 14 1867 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Maria Griffiths Daughter Single Female 12 1869 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Mary Ellen Griffiths Daughter Single Female 10 1871 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
John Griffiths Son Single Male 7 1874 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Thomas Griffiths Son Single Male 5 1876 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Llewelyn Griffiths Son Single Male 3 1878 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Arthur Griffiths Son Single Male 1 1880 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Elizabeth Griffiths Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Sep 2018 16:23

???




GRIFFITHS, THOMAS mms WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in BANGOR Volume 11B Page 506

GRIFFITHS, ARTHUR mms WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in BANGOR Volume 11B Page 523

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2018 16:16

????????
John
Last name Griffiths
Age 32
Birth year 1832
Event year 1864
Banns year -
Marriage year 1864
Marriage date 31 May 1864
Marriage place Bangor
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Griffiths
Spouse's first name(s) Maria
Spouse's last name Williams
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's birth year 1843
Spouse's father's last name Williams
Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage
Page 173
Record set Caernarvonshire Marriages And Banns
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2018 16:07

Robert Arthur
Last name Griffiths
Birth year 1882
Birth date ? ? 1882
Baptism year 1882
Baptism date 16 Sep 1882
Place Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Maria
Page 68
Record set Caernarvonshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms

Thomas
Last name Griffiths
Birth year 1876
Birth date ? ? 1876
Baptism year 1876
Baptism date 08 Nov 1876
Place Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Maria
Page 41

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2018 15:47

and thomas's father is john

Thomas
Last name Griffiths
Age 30
Birth year 1880
Event year 1910
Banns year -
Marriage year 1910
Marriage date 16 Mar 1910
Marriage place Bangor
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Griffiths
Spouse's first name(s) Jenney
Spouse's last name Hughes
Spouse's age 24
Spouse's birth year 1886
Spouse's father's last name Hughes
Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage
Page 24
Record set Caernarvonshire Marriages And Banns
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Sep 2018 15:39

He was a sailor of 32 Upper Garth Rd, Bangor. She was from 25 Cross St, Holyhead. Both fathers were deceased but had been sailors. John Owen, Freda Hughes and W J(?) Burnett/ Burnell (?) were witnesses.

Anglesey Marriages And Banns

First name(s) Robert Arthur
Last name Griffith
Age 30
Birth year 1881
Year 1911
Event Marriage
Marriage year 1911
Marriage date 29 Mar 1911
Residence -
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Griffith
Place Caergybi / Holyhead
County Anglesey
Country Wales
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Grace
Spouse's last name Hughes
Spouse's age 27
Spouse's' residence -
Spouse's father's first name(s) John William
Spouse's father's last name Hughes
Record set Anglesey Marriages And Banns

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2018 15:22

THOMAS
Last name GRIFFITHS
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1910
Registration month -


Jenney Hughes, Jane Catherine Roberts
District Bangor
District number -
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Volume 11B
Volume as transcribed 11B
Page number 572

1911 says JENNIE NOT TEMUEs
I cant find a census with thomas and robert together

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Sep 2018 15:21

??

Deaths Dec 1957 (>99%)
GRIFFITHS Robert 76 Bangor 8a 98

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2018 15:17

death of thomas in 1911 census
Name: Thomas Griffith
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: abt 1876
Registration Date: Sep 1945
Registration district: Bangor
Inferred County: Caernarvonshire
Vo

1939
Griffiths Household (6 People) 30 Upper Garth Road , Bangor M.B., Caernarvonshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Thomas Griffiths 02 Aug 1875 Male Inshore Fisherman (In Partnership) Married 154 1
Jane Griffiths 04 Sep 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 154 2
Thomas Griffiths 02 May 1923 Male Inshore Fisherman (In Partnership) Single 154 3
Walter R McShane 13 Dec 1923 Male At School Single 154 4
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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Sep 2018 14:49

The St Asaph birth isn't the correct one;


Robert Arthur Griffiths
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Robert Arthur Griffiths
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: St Asaph
Inferred County: Denbighshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 277

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Sep 2018 14:42

That 1911 looks good, Maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2018 14:40

could this be mary in 1911 -

says married a few dayys

Name: Mary G Griffith
[Mary G Griffiths]
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Sister in Law
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Bangor
Search Photos: Search for 'Bangor' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 4 Garth Hill Bangor
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Bangor
Registration District Number: 631
Sub-registration district: Bangor
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household schedule number: 255
Piece: 34493
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Griffith 35
Temue Griffith 29
Archie Griffith 30 ---------------
Mary G Griffith 29

archie

Name: Archie Griffith
[Archie Griffiths]
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Bangor
Search Photos: Search for 'Bangor' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 4 Garth Hill Bangor
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Fisherman
Registration district: Bangor
Registration District Number: 631
Sub-registration district: Bangor
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household schedule number: 255
Piece: 34493

there is this as well so maybe not
Archibald
Last name Griffiths
Birth year 1881
Birth place Bangor
Birth country Wales
Year 1897
Role Boy
Vessel name Reaper
From date 01 Jan 1897
To date 30 Jun 1897
Previous vessel First Ship
Vessel official number 60262
Vessel registration port Castletown
Vessel type Sail
Net tonnage 40
Log book N
Master's first name(s) John
Master's last name Jones
Master's address 343 High Street
Master's town Bangor
Master's county Caernarvonshire
Master's country Wales
Owner's first name(s) John
Owner's last name Jones
Owner's address 343 High Street
Owner's town Bangor
Owner's county Caernarvonshire
Owner's country Wales
Record source Manx National Heritage (Castletown)
Document type D & 07
Archive reference 9800/Castletown/1897
Record set England & Wales Merchant Navy Crew Lists 1861-1913
Category Education & work
Subcategory Merchant Navy & Maritime

malyon

malyon Report 26 Sep 2018 14:13

this is the only robert a griffiths near the birth date

Births Dec 1878 (>99%)

GRIFFITHS Robert Arthur St. Asaph 11b 328


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Sep 2018 13:56

Don't think that's the right 1911.

They only married in March Qtr 1911

And I think 'chwarelwr' might be quarryman

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2018 13:49

MARY G
Last name GRIFFITHS
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1885
Age 64
Death quarter 2
Death year 1949
District Bangor
County Caernarvonshire
Volume 8A
Page 79
Country Wales