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HALL, FLORENCE MARY WAGER
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 96

Daughter of William Thomas & Mary Ann.

1911
Florence Mary Hall
Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: West Ham, Essex
Civil Parish: West Ham

County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 69 Harcourt Road, West Ham E
Occupation: school
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 317
Piece: 9427
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thomas Hall 36
Mary Ann Hall 36
Ernest George Hall 9
Florence Mary Hall 6 <<<<
Ernest John Hall

'A' Florence M Hall m William Huckle in 1922, West Ham
There is one Huckle/Hall birth which seems relevant

Lilian F Huckle
Registration Date: 1923
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Re-registration Year: 1923
Mother's Maiden Name: Hall
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 218
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Ancestry suggests that Florence M Hall married/partnered with Victor H Gray & gives this 1939 Register & a 1964 death.

Florence M Gray
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1904
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 63
Residence Place: Sunbury-on-Thames, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 64
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: BSAL
Registration district: 126/1
Inferred Spouse: Victor H Gray
Household Members:
Name
Victor H Gray
Florence M Gray

Apart from purchasing certificates, is it possible to prove the connection or refute it?

florence M Hall
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Collections from
Great Britain, England
Country
England
County
Essex
Year
1963
Birth Year
1904
Age
59
Event Quarter
2
District
Maldon

lilian F Huckle 1923 is with William I/T Hall and Mary Ann Hall at 90,Corperation Street in 1939,so is the question did Florence Hall/Huckle get together with Victor H Gray.

Maryb.

Exactly!

Lilian Florence Huckle married in Wandsworth Reg. Its not quite on the Sunbury-on-Thames doorstep, but in the right direction.

The 1939 register for Florence L Gray (Hall) has 4 closed records.
As Victor H Gray seems to have been previously married, might some of them be his?

Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%)
Gray Victor H Duke Barnet 3a 922

Births Sep 1926 (>99%)
Gray Constance Duke
Gray Georgina M Duke
Births Mar 1929 (>99%)
Gray Eileen T Duke Barnet 3a 670
Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
Gray Ronald J R Duke Barnet 3a 816

Hmm - the bride from the 1926 marriage was Constance A Duke.
So where's she gone?

the baby constance died 1926

I think The Constance A Duke was actually this one, Constance Elfrida Duke.


1911 Census For England & Wales
11 Albion Place Bells Hill Barnet, Chipping Barnet, Hertfordshire, England

Sabert Duke Head Married Male 32 1879 Carman Tottenham
Elizabeth Duke Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Barnet Essex Herts
Victor Duke Son - Male 6 1905 - Barnet Essex Herts
Constance Duke Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Barnet Essex Herts
Sabert Duke Son - Male 3 1908 - Barnet Essex Herts
Leonard Duke Son - Male 1 1910 - Barnet Essex Herts


Not seeing a death or remarriage for her at the moment.

Here she is

First name(s) CONSTANCE ELFREDA
Last name GRAY
Gender Female
Birth day 15
Birth month 10
Birth year 1905
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1984
District Westminster
Register number 584
County London
Volume 15
Page 1695
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
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She's with Victor in 1939!

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Gray Household (4 People)
88 Bells Hill , Barnet U.D., Hertfordshire, England

Constance E Gray
DOB 15 Oct 1905
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 154
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Victor H Gray
DOB 10 Feb 1902
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Gas Fitter (Heavy Work)
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 154
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Eileen T Griggs (Gray)
DOB 01 Jan 1929
SEX Female
OCCUPATION At School
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 154
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 3

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The Victor on the 1939 register with Florence is an older man.


Gray Household (7 People)
63 Vicarage Road , Sunbury-on-Thames U.D., Middlesex, England

Victor H Gray
DOB 11 Aug 1888
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Transport Controller
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 64
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Florence M Gray
DOB 29 Apr 1904
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 64
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

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Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
GRAY Victor Henry Headington 3a 771

1930 ER, Victor is with Constance ROSA Gray by 1931 he's with Florence Mary Gray.

Marriages Mar 1917
Gray Victor H Smith Northampton 3b 128
Smith Constance R Gray Northampton 3b 128

I think Constance and Victor split up and I think she remarried in Northamptonshire (she's on the Northamptonshire ER in 1930)

CONSTANCE ROSA
Last name HARRIS
Gender Female
Birth day 26
Birth month 9
Birth year 1892
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1987
District Wellingborough
Register number 187
County Northamptonshire
Volume 7
Page 2920
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
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CONSTANCE R
Last name GRAY
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1930
Registration month -

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CONSTANCE R GRAY married one of these people
John W Harris
Spouse's last name Harris
District Northampton
District number -
County Northamptonshire
Country England
Volume 3B
Volume as transcribed 3B
Page number 194
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
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1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Fortescue Household (5 People)
Lodge Little Inchester , Wellingborough R.D., Northamptonshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S)
Constance R Harris
DOB 26 Sep 1893
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Housekeeper
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 388
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 3

Lewis Harry Fortescue
DOB 22 Feb 1874
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Farmer Retired
MARITAL STATUS Widowed
SCHEDULE 388
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Lewis Edwards Fortescue
DOB 24 Sep 1915
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Horseman On Farm
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 388
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

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Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Gray Victor C H Smith Thrapston 3b 225

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Gray Constance R Smith Thrapston 3b 354