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Sarah Normington ( ne Daniel(s)

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Hazel

Hazel Report 16 Dec 2018 15:00

looking for info on the above . born 1810 ish in Oldhm Lancs and married Joseph Normington from St Ausrtell Cornwall.. a copper miner. She died young and am interested in ANY family history ..researching on behalf of her great great grandaughter who know nothing about her family history <3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Dec 2018 15:11

When was the marriage, please? And where?

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Dec 2018 15:13

? The family in 1841 -

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Clock Street, Oldham cum Prestwich, Ashton & Oldham, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Joseph Normington Male 35 1806 Lancashire, England Twister
Sarah Normington Female 30 1811 Lancashire, England
Benjamin Normington Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Betty Normington Female 14 1827 Lancashire, England
Mary Normington Female 13 1828 Lancashire, England
James Normington Male 11 1830 Lancashire, England
John Normington Male 5 1836 Lancashire, England
Hannah Normington Female 3 1838 Lancashire, England
William Normington Male 0 1841 Lancashire, England

Do you mean you want to know anything pre her marriage. Presume you know post marriage if you have got back to her in the first place??

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Dec 2018 15:13

?? The marriage. Even if Sarah was 34 in the 1841 census, making her born c 1806/7, she was only 16 when she married?

Joseph Normandin
mentioned in the record of Joseph Normandin and Sarah Daniel
Name Joseph Normandin
Spouse's Name Sarah Daniel
Event Date 10 Aug 1823
Event Place St. Mary'S, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Spouse's Marital Status Single

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Dec 2018 15:16

For INFO


Name: Sarah Daniel
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Aug 1823
Parish: Prestwick Cum Oldham, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Joseph Normandin
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Born before 1810, I'd have thought

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Dec 2018 15:21

Marriage: 10 Aug 1823 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Joseph Normandin - (X), Twiner, Shaw
Sarah Daniel - (X), Spinster, Shaw
Witness: Ralph Jackson; Daniel Dunkerley
Married by Banns with consent of Parties by: J. Fallowfield
Register: Marriages 1822 - 1824, Page 107, Entry 319
Source: LDS Film 1656118

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Dec 2018 15:22

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
NORMINGTON, WILLIAM DANIELS Order
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in ASHTON AND OLDHAM Volume 20 Page 115

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Dec 2018 15:23

???????
Baptism: 9 Feb 1800 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Joseph Normerton - Son of John Normerton & Betty, his wife
Abode: Barrowshaw
Occupation: Weaver
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 73, Entry 30
Source: LDS Film 1656161

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Dec 2018 15:24

When/where did Sarah die?

Nothing on any of the records found backs up the theory that Joseph was a miner from Cornwall
Has your friend PROVED her line back to this couple?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Dec 2018 15:28

???

Name: Sarah Normington
Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1805
Burial Date: 13 Oct 1843
Burial Place: Shaw, Holy Trinity, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Shaw

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Dec 2018 15:34

1851
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Spineer Street, Oldham, Lancashire, England
year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Nermington Head Married Male 49 1802 Twiner Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England
Betty Nermington Wife Married Female 55 1796 - Derbyshire, England
John Nermington Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Piecer Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England
William Nermington Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Oldham, Lancashire, England
Hannah Nermington Daughter - Female 14 1837 Piecer Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Dec 2018 15:35

Is this Joseph and family in 1851 - remarried to a Betty. He's a Cotton worker here, not a miner

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Spineer Street, Oldham, Lancashire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Nermington Head Married Male 49 1802 Twiner Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England
Betty Nermington Wife Married Female 55 1796 - Derbyshire, England
John Nermington Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Piecer Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England
William Nermington Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Oldham, Lancashire, England
Hannah Nermington Daughter - Female 14 1837 Piecer Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England

what evidence do you have that Sarah was born in Oldham?


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Dec 2018 15:37

Marriage: 14 Oct 1844 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Joseph Normington - full age, Twiner, Widower, Oldham
Betty Taylor - (X), full age, Widow, Oldham
Groom's Father: John Normington, Waste Dealer
Bride's Father: William Mellor, Black Smith
Witness: Samuel White Beeston; James Sheldrick
Married by Banns by: John Lowthian Curate
Register: Marriages 1844 - 1845, Page 54, Entry 108
Source: LDS Film 2356188

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Dec 2018 15:37

Possible for marriage to Betty? EDIT - above post shows to Betty Taylor

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1844 (>99%)
COOPER Betty Manchester 20 720 <<<<<<<<<<<
MILLS Daniel Manchester 20 720
NORMINGTON Joseph Manchester 20 720 <<<<<<<<<
RAYNOR Ruth Manchester 20 720
ROBSON George Manchester 20 720
TAYLOR Betty Manchester 20 720 <<<<<<<<<<
WALKER Daniel Manchester 20 720
WILD Mary Manchester 20 720

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Dec 2018 15:38

BETTY
Last name NORMANTON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1795
Age 73
Death quarter 4
Death year 1868
District Oldham
County Lancashire
Volume 8D
Page 437
Country England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Dec 2018 15:47

That's the second wife, Maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Dec 2018 15:53

parents

Banns: St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
John Normanton - Sholver in this Parish
Betty Harrop - Barrowshaw in this Parish
Banns Read: 16 Sep 1798, 2nd: 23 Sep 1798, 3rd: 30 Sep 1798
Register: Banns 1794 - 1798, Entry 2
Source: LDS Family Search

Marriage: 18 Oct 1798 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
John Normorton, this Parish - Weaver, this Parish
Betty Harrop - (X), Spinster, this Parish
Witness: James Bradley; Ralph Jackson
Married by Banns by: Thos. Fawcett
Register: Marriages 1782 - 1802, Page 474, Entry 1429
Source: LDS Film 1656117

children
Baptism: 2 Sep 1798 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
James Harrop - Son of John Normanton & Betty Harrop, Spinster
Abode: Barrowshaw
Notes: B.B.
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 63, Entry 37
Source: LDS Film 1656161

Baptism: 9 Feb 1800 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Joseph Normerton - Son of John Normerton & Betty, his wife
Abode: Barrowshaw
Occupation: Weaver
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 73, Entry 30
Source: LDS Film 1656161

Baptism: 25 Sep 1803 St Peter, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Mary Normondin - Daughter of John Normondin & Betty
Abode: Barrowshaw
Occupation: Weaver
Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Page 9, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 1655906

Baptism: 16 Jul 1807 St Peter, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Sarah Normonton - Daughter of John Normonton & Betty
Abode: Horsedgefold
Occupation: Weaver
Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Page 47, Entry 21
Source: LDS Film 1655906

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Dec 2018 16:05

Still no credence to the idea of Joseph being from Cornwall

Perhaps a re-think is called for.

How does your friend get back to Sarah & Joseph, if, as you say, she knows nothing of her family history??

Hazel

Hazel Report 20 Dec 2018 17:33

thank you all..... interesting that the normington surname has mutated .. will need to digest what is here .<MANY THANKS,,,,,,,, : i knew of two of Sarah and Joseph children William and Hannah and its Hannahs daughter Louisa Ward who married Thomas Lawless in 1899 and their daughter Marjorie Lawless married Joseph Arnold. It is a living descendant of Marjorie and Joseph for whom I am researching

malyon

malyon Report 20 Dec 2018 18:04

Joseph Normington
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

Name: Joseph Normington
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1838
Registration District: St. Austell
County: Cornwall
Event Place: St. Austell, Cornwall, England
Volume: 9
Page: 11
Affiliate Line Number: 10