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Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,306 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	21 Dec 2018 20:28
	Right - let's see if we can work back Marriage: 22 Aug 1899 St John, Werneth, Lancashire, England Thomas Lawless - 24, Mechanic, Bachelor, 34 Percy Street Louisa Ashworth Ward - 25, Reeler, Spinster, 26 Mordaunt Street Groom's Father: William Lawless, Mechanic Bride's Father: Thomas Ward, Mechanic Witness: Thomas Ward; Annie Lawton Married by Banns by: J.G. Browne Register: Marriages 1897 - 1908, Page 66, Entry 131 Source: LDS Film 1655906 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1873 WARD Louisa Ashworth NORMINGTON Oldham Below Town Oldham OBT/98/384 Marriage: 7 Aug 1854 Holy Trinity, Oldham, Lancashire, England Thomas Shiars Ward - 21, Spinner, Bachelor, Royton Road Hannah Normington - 19, Spinster, Royton Road Groom's Father: Thomas Ward, Overlooker Bride's Father: Joseph Normington, Twiner Witness: Philip Whittaker; Ann Goldthorp Married by Banns by: John Godson, Incumbent Register: Marriages 1849 - 1861, Page 47, Entry 94 Source: LDS Family Search Ties in with census info posted earlier So Joseph was NOT a miner - perhaps it's a case of someone mis-reading, or mis-hearing.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,617 Send Message	greyghost	Report	21 Dec 2018 12:52
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,617 Send Message	Hazel, you still haven't answered the questions asked - to try and help you. How do you know (or why do you think) Sarah was born in Oldham and Joseph in Cornwall ? Unless we have completely the wrong family nothing has shown that.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,306 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	21 Dec 2018 12:34
	She didn't marry until 1940.............................................................
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,406 Send Message	Maddie	Report	21 Dec 2018 12:02
	LAWLESS, MARJORIE WARD Order GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in OLDHAM Volume 08D Page 643 Name: Joseph Arnold Registration Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1940 Registration district: Oldham Inferred County: Lancashire Spouse: Marjorie Lawless Volume Number: 8d Page Number: 2703 marjorie 1939 Marjorie Lawless [Marjorie Amdd] Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 10 Aug 1906 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 42 Residence Place: Thornton Cleveleys, Lancashire, England Occupation: Domestic Servant Schedule Number: 112 Sub Schedule Number: 4 Enumeration District: NXID Registration district: 477 a/3 Household Members: Name Edith Mitchell Frederick Williamson Charlotte Williamson Marjorie Lawless Name: Marjorie Arnold Death Age: 37 Birth Date: abt 1907 Registration Date: Mar 1944 Registration district: Oldham Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 889 Name: Marjorie Lawless Registration Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1940 Registration district: Oldham Inferred County: Lancashire Spouse: Joseph Arnold Volume Number: 8d Page Number: 2703 there is one birth in 1943 in oldham but why does majorie describe herself as single in 1939
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	20 Dec 2018 18:06
	Joseph Normington England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008 Name: Joseph Normington Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1894 Registration District: St. Austell County: Cornwall Event Place: St. Austell, Cornwall, England Volume: 5C Page: 118 Affiliate Line Number: 233
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	20 Dec 2018 18:04
	Joseph Normington England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name: Joseph Normington Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1838 Registration District: St. Austell County: Cornwall Event Place: St. Austell, Cornwall, England Volume: 9 Page: 11 Affiliate Line Number: 10
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 20 Send Message	Hazel	Report	20 Dec 2018 17:33
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 20 Send Message	thank you all..... interesting that the normington surname has mutated .. will need to digest what is here .<MANY THANKS,,,,,,,, : i knew of two of Sarah and Joseph children William and Hannah and its Hannahs daughter Louisa Ward who married Thomas Lawless in 1899 and their daughter Marjorie Lawless married Joseph Arnold. It is a living descendant of Marjorie and Joseph for whom I am researching
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,306 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	16 Dec 2018 16:05
	Still no credence to the idea of Joseph being from Cornwall Perhaps a re-think is called for. How does your friend get back to Sarah & Joseph, if, as you say, she knows nothing of her family history??
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,406 Send Message	Maddie	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:53
	parents Banns: St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England John Normanton - Sholver in this Parish Betty Harrop - Barrowshaw in this Parish Banns Read: 16 Sep 1798, 2nd: 23 Sep 1798, 3rd: 30 Sep 1798 Register: Banns 1794 - 1798, Entry 2 Source: LDS Family Search Marriage: 18 Oct 1798 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England John Normorton, this Parish - Weaver, this Parish Betty Harrop - (X), Spinster, this Parish Witness: James Bradley; Ralph Jackson Married by Banns by: Thos. Fawcett Register: Marriages 1782 - 1802, Page 474, Entry 1429 Source: LDS Film 1656117 children Baptism: 2 Sep 1798 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England James Harrop - Son of John Normanton & Betty Harrop, Spinster Abode: Barrowshaw Notes: B.B. Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 63, Entry 37 Source: LDS Film 1656161 Baptism: 9 Feb 1800 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England Joseph Normerton - Son of John Normerton & Betty, his wife Abode: Barrowshaw Occupation: Weaver Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 73, Entry 30 Source: LDS Film 1656161 Baptism: 25 Sep 1803 St Peter, Oldham, Lancashire, England Mary Normondin - Daughter of John Normondin & Betty Abode: Barrowshaw Occupation: Weaver Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Page 9, Entry 2 Source: LDS Film 1655906 Baptism: 16 Jul 1807 St Peter, Oldham, Lancashire, England Sarah Normonton - Daughter of John Normonton & Betty Abode: Horsedgefold Occupation: Weaver Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Page 47, Entry 21 Source: LDS Film 1655906
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,306 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:47
	That's the second wife, Maddie
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,406 Send Message	Maddie	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:38
	BETTY Last name NORMANTON Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1795 Age 73 Death quarter 4 Death year 1868 District Oldham County Lancashire Volume 8D Page 437 Country England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,617 Send Message	greyghost	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:37
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,617 Send Message	Possible for marriage to Betty? EDIT - above post shows to Betty Taylor Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1844 (>99%) COOPER Betty Manchester 20 720 <<<<<<<<<<< MILLS Daniel Manchester 20 720 NORMINGTON Joseph Manchester 20 720 <<<<<<<<< RAYNOR Ruth Manchester 20 720 ROBSON George Manchester 20 720 TAYLOR Betty Manchester 20 720 <<<<<<<<<< WALKER Daniel Manchester 20 720 WILD Mary Manchester 20 720
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,306 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:37
	Marriage: 14 Oct 1844 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England Joseph Normington - full age, Twiner, Widower, Oldham Betty Taylor - (X), full age, Widow, Oldham Groom's Father: John Normington, Waste Dealer Bride's Father: William Mellor, Black Smith Witness: Samuel White Beeston; James Sheldrick Married by Banns by: John Lowthian Curate Register: Marriages 1844 - 1845, Page 54, Entry 108 Source: LDS Film 2356188
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,617 Send Message	greyghost	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:35
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,617 Send Message	Is this Joseph and family in 1851 - remarried to a Betty. He's a Cotton worker here, not a miner 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Spineer Street, Oldham, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph Nermington Head Married Male 49 1802 Twiner Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England Betty Nermington Wife Married Female 55 1796 - Derbyshire, England John Nermington Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Piecer Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England William Nermington Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Oldham, Lancashire, England Hannah Nermington Daughter - Female 14 1837 Piecer Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England what evidence do you have that Sarah was born in Oldham?
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,406 Send Message	Maddie	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:34
	1851 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Spineer Street, Oldham, Lancashire, England year Occupation Birth place Joseph Nermington Head Married Male 49 1802 Twiner Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England Betty Nermington Wife Married Female 55 1796 - Derbyshire, England John Nermington Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Piecer Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England William Nermington Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Oldham, Lancashire, England Hannah Nermington Daughter - Female 14 1837 Piecer Cotton Oldham, Lancashire, England
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,306 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:28
	??? Name: Sarah Normington Age: 38 Birth Date: abt 1805 Burial Date: 13 Oct 1843 Burial Place: Shaw, Holy Trinity, Lancashire, England Parish as it Appears: Shaw
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,306 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:24
	When/where did Sarah die? Nothing on any of the records found backs up the theory that Joseph was a miner from Cornwall Has your friend PROVED her line back to this couple?
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,406 Send Message	Maddie	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:23
	??????? Baptism: 9 Feb 1800 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England Joseph Normerton - Son of John Normerton & Betty, his wife Abode: Barrowshaw Occupation: Weaver Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 73, Entry 30 Source: LDS Film 1656161
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,617 Send Message	greyghost	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:22
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,617 Send Message	Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: NORMINGTON, WILLIAM DANIELS Order GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in ASHTON AND OLDHAM Volume 20 Page 115
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,406 Send Message	Maddie	Report	16 Dec 2018 15:21
	Marriage: 10 Aug 1823 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England Joseph Normandin - (X), Twiner, Shaw Sarah Daniel - (X), Spinster, Shaw Witness: Ralph Jackson; Daniel Dunkerley Married by Banns with consent of Parties by: J. Fallowfield Register: Marriages 1822 - 1824, Page 107, Entry 319 Source: LDS Film 1656118

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