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Elizabeth Boxall's parents??

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Gerry

Gerry Report 22 Jan 2019 17:56

Elizabeth was born 31/5/1852, 27 Thomas St, Gibson St, Lambeth

Her father was Edmund Boxall, a sawyer and her mother was Caroline Welch

You would think it would be simple to find Elizabeth's parents in the a census but I cannot.

Can anyone help please? Yet again :-)

Gerry

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 18:00

Did Elizabeth survive?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 18:01

Name: Elizabeth Boxall
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Boxall
Mother's name: Caroline Boxall
Gender: Female
Where born: Hambledon, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Hambleden
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Hambledon
Sub-registration district: Whitley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Piece: 437
Folio: 5
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
William Boxall 48
Caroline Boxall 38
William Boxall 17
James Boxall 10
Elizabeth Boxall 8
Charlotte Boxall 5
Charles Boxall 3
Emily Boxall 9/12

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 18:02


Name: Elizabeth Boxall
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1852
Marriage Date: 4 Oct 1873
Marriage Place: Hambledon, St Peter, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Hambledon
Father: William Boxall
Spouse: John Elliot Vincent

Gerry

Gerry Report 22 Jan 2019 18:07

Erika

Thank you very much. How did you find them?

Gerry

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Jan 2019 18:23

Name: Edmond Boxall
Gender: Male
Father: John Boxall
Marriage Date: 13 May 1860
Marriage Place: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Spouse: Caroline Welsh
Father: Patrick Welsh
FHL Film Number: 1041668
Reference ID: item 4 p 171

but this is after the birth of Elizabeth.


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 19:17

Simply used Elizabeth's details - BUT......only just realised that the father's name doesn't tally, and the location probably isn't right

I'll look again

I asked if Elizabeth survived..........did she?

BOXALL, ELIZABETH (MMN) WELCH
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 248

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 19:19

????????

British Army Service Records


First name(s) Edmund
Last name Boxall
Birth year 1835
Birth parish Brompton
Birth town London
Birth county Middlesex
Birth country England
Service number 568
Rank PRIVATE
Regiment 1st Batt 21st Reg Of Fusiliers
Year 1855
Attestation date 04 Apr 1855
Attestation age years 20
Discharge corps 1st Batt 21st Reg Of Fusiliers
Discharge service number 568
Document type Discharge

EDITED

NO - this one is still single in 1881

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 19:24

Definitely NOT the 1861 I posted

This is one of the children's births

BOXALL, CHARLOTTE BATCHELOR
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in HAMBLEDON UNION Volume 02A Page 90

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 19:26

Address on the 1860 marriage cert: South Street

Both parties 'of full age'

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 19:30

Name: Ellen Boxall
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Mar 1870
Baptism Place: Camberwell St Giles, Southwark, England
Father: Edward Boxall
Mother: Caroline Boxall


BOXALL, ELLEN WELCH
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in ST GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 187


Name: Ellen Boxall
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1857
Marriage Date: 17 Jul 1876
Marriage Place: St John the Evangelist, Walworth, Southwark, England
Father: Edward Boxall******************Sawyer
Spouse: James Ransom

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 19:36

Many pieces of 1861 are not available. From memory, a lot of them are for areas of London.

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Jan 2019 19:36

???? Surname is Boxall and Elyet is Eliz with th written in smaller letters. All born Southwark St Georges.

Record Transcription:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

2, Gaywood Street, St George, St George Southwark, London & Surrey, England

John Boyall Head Married Male 38 1823 Sawyer -
Caroline Boyall Wife Married Female 30 1831 Hawker -
Elyet Boyall Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1853 Scholar -
John Boyall Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar -
Ellen Boxall Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar -


and John's birth. Father has probably got the same name.


BOXALL, JOHN EDMOND WELSH Order
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY Volume 01D Page 48

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 19:38

Ellen in 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, Providence Place, Edmonton, Middlesex, England

James Ransom Head Married Male 23 1858 Carman Camberwell, Surrey, England
Ellen Ransom Wife Married Female 24 1857 Carman Wife Surrey, England
James Ransom Son Single Male 3 1878 - Southgate, Middlesex, England
Edward Ransom Son Single Male 1 1880 - Southgate, Middlesex, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 19:42

Great find alviegal

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Jan 2019 19:51

Thanks but it was your posting of Ellen's birth that led to that find :-D :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 19:54

No substitute for teamwork ;-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Jan 2019 19:56

Other children?

BOXALL, ROBERT WELCH Order
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in ST GEORGE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 152

DEATH

BOXALL, ROBERT 1 Order
GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in ST GEORGE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 113


BOXALL, CAROLINE WELCH Order
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in SAINT GEORGE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 169

DEATH

BOXALL, CAROLINE 2 Order
GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in ST GEORGE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 115


BOXALL, LOUISA WELCH Order
GRO Reference: 1864 S Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 286

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2019 20:14

Not 100% on this one............

Name: Louisa Boxall
Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1865
Burial Date: 6 Jan 1884
Burial Place: London, England
Reference Number: CTHC/01/054
Address 8, Pereira St

Gerry

Gerry Report 23 Jan 2019 15:09

Thank you all for your input. Have only just been able to get back on the computer and I see i need to carefully go through everything

Gerry