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You are very welcome..........

Take your time to digest it all and come back to this thread if you need anything further on her.

Dea x

Thank you all. A lot to take in..much appreciated.

Related thread with Allen's and Jones'

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1375611

Just for our reference as I expect the poster already has details on her/his ? grandfather Walter:

This would be Walter + his family in 1911 - living VERY close to where Daisy was living so I think we can be as sure as we can be that that we have the correct Daisy:

1911 Census For England & Wales

3 Bryn Road Glyncorrwg Glam, Glyncorwg, Glamorganshire, Wales
Walter Allen's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Cope Head Married Male 63 1848 Coal Miner Hewer Warickshire
Mary Ann Cope Wife Married Female 54 1857 - Newint Gloucester
Alfred Allen Stepson Single Male 29 1882 Coal Mine Hewer Glyncorrwg Glam
Thomas H Allen Stepson Single Male 22 1889 Coal Mine Hewer Glyncorrwg Glam
Emily Allen Stepdaughter Single Female 27 1884 - Mountain Ash Glam
James Allen Son Single Male 21 1890 Coal Miner Hewer Glyncorrwg Glam
Walter Allen Son Single Male 19 1892 Coal Miner Hewer Glyncorrwg Glam
David G Allen Son Single Male 16 1895 Coal Miner Hewer Glyncorrwg Glam
Frederick Allen Son - Male 10 1901 School Glyncorrwg Glam
Arthur Allen Son - Male 0 1911 - Glyncorrwg Glam
W Arthur Allen Son - Male 12 1899 School Glyncorrwg Glam

Of course, as ever, only the certs will prove this.

Dea x

It would seem that daisy and Harold are siblings and maybe they evacuated Melryn to auntie Daisy

This would be Florence's death ?

Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%)
Young Florence 37 Neath 11a 551

Dea x

And birth of young Albert on 1911 census:

YOUNG, ALBERT mms TARRANT
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in NEATH Volume 11A Page 1081

Birth of "Tilby" from the FMP 1911 posted by Dea.
Lilly on the image, transcribed as Lilly on Ancestry.


YOUNG, LILY mms TARRANT
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 99


Harold 1898, transcribed as Hazel on FMP 1911, is transcribed as Hard on Ancestry.

Here we go...................


YOUNG, HAROLD GEORGE TARRANT Order
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 47


YOUNG, DAISY LILIAN TARRANT Order
GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 30 Order

YOUNG, FLORENCE TARRANT Order
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 29 Order


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YOUNG, FLORENCE LILY TARRANT Order
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in LEWISHAM Volume 01D Page 1232


Dea x

?
Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Tarrant Florence Uxbridge 3a 67
Young Albert Uxbridge 3a 67


Dea x

Was just looking at that record too Dea

Was wondering if Harold and Daisy were siblings

The marriage certificate shouid sort out who the father was


Ancestry though has Daisy Lilian marrying in 1918 to William Ford

Marriages Dec 1918
Young Daisy L Ford Islington 1b 521
Ford William E Young Islington 1b 521

Edit not the right daisy I think as her birth on the 1939 reg is 22aug 1894

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

11, Green Man Lane, Ealing, Brentford, Middlesex, England
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Daisy Young's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Albert Young Head Married Male 28 1873 Bricklayer's Labourer Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
Florence Young Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Yiewsley, Middlesex, England
Daisy Young Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Yiewsley, Middlesex, England
Harold Young Son Single Male 2 1899 - Southall, Middlesex, England
Edward Feblow Boarder Single Male 35 1866 Bricklayer's Labourer Manchester, Lancashire, England

Dea x

Isn''t this 'Daisy' more likely?

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

13 Cwncas Glyncorrwg Port Talbot, Glyncorwg, Glamorganshire, Wales
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Daisy Young's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Albert Young Head Widower Male 40 1871 Stpoker Colliery England Middlesex
Daisy Young Daughter Single Female 15 1896 - Brentford Middlesex
Hazel Young Son - Male 13 1898 School Brentford Middlesex
Tilby Young Daughter - Female 9 1902 - Brentford Middlesex
Albert Young Son - Male 1 1910 - Glyncorrwg Glam


Dea x

Parents on the 1939 register

1939 England and Wales Register
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Name: Harold G Young
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1898
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 39 Balfour Road
Residence Place: Edmonton, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Builder's Labourer
Schedule Number: 56
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: BDBC
Registration district: 132/5
Inferred Spouse: Winifred Young
Household Members:
Name
George Rolfe born 19.7.1872 builders lab OAP
Harold G Young
Winifred Young born 25.5.1903


Harolds birth

109 Order
YOUNG, HAROLD GEORGE TARRANT
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 47

Maybe there's a family connection somewhere

Wel this is Merlyn ,s birth

Births Mar 1933
Young Merlyn G Rolfe Edmonton 3a 1060

Parents
Marriages Dec 1931
Rolfe Winifred Young Edmonton 3a 1269
Young Harold G Rolfe Edmonton 2a 1269

I will look at that as info you had before, there was Merlyn young living with them..

The cheapest place is the official GRO site

Think the prices have or going to rise in Feb,but the do a PDF file copy which is cheaper and can be downloaded. They used to be £6

You don't need the dearer certified copy for genealogy purposes

Matches this 1911 census

View 1911 Wales Census

Name: Daisy Young
[Daisy Parry]
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Barry, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Rhondda
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County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 25 New Century Street Trealaw Rhondda Glam
Marital status: Single
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration district: Rhondda
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Household schedule number: 275
Piece: 32380
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Parry 29
Annie Parry 37
Daisy Young 17
Stanley Young 14
Rose Young 11
Grace Young 9

Barry came under Cardiff reg district

Edit another birth

YOUNG, GRACE LILY JONES
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 475

Ow wow thankyou,that was uncanny,specially where l put Jones before lol. One more question,is there a fairer price to order certificate too.

Well she could have been born a year earlier as this looks a very likely

YOUNG, DAISY MAUD JONES
GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 405

Note mmn was Jones !!


Plus it's the only one around that time that was born in wales