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19 Mar 2019 11:26 |
Try using the Genes Reunited tree to start with - if I can use it, it must be easy ! Just plan it out - you can always change things if you need to.
You will need certificates to confirm - I was once told "prove each generation before going backwards or you could end up a long way down the wrong path"
You can use the Search facility at the top of this page and then search all members trees. Input an ancestors barest details and see if there are any matches. You can then try to contact the tree holders (may not all be still members, or aren't interested or able to reply) - explain what you think the relationship might be and you may get some help that way - they may have certificates they can share etc.
Or, there are a lot of public trees on Ancestry where someone may have posted certificates etc. BUT without proof, do not trust Ancestry trees. People copy ad lib and you can find your granny born after you !!
I see you've asked about certificates on another thread, so you have that advice.
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18 Mar 2019 22:15 |
Amazing research. I have no idea how I am going to piece this all together on a family tree to make sense. Do you have any tips on how I can confirm these are all relatives, or does this need birth certificates to confirm? I have struggled some time to piece together those in the Brooks family tree, this has been of interest as I carry the name, but have no family to provide any further information on the Brooks name.
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18 Mar 2019 19:25 |
?? Thomas Craft England Births and Christenings Name Thomas Craft Gender Male Christening Date 20 Jul 1776 Christening Date (Original) 20 JUL 1776 Christening Place EAST WORLDHAM,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND Father's Name Jonathan Craft Mother's Name Martha Citing this Record "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPPH-6PJ : 11 Febr
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18 Mar 2019 19:22 |
?? marriage
Name William Dutton Spouse's Name Ann Swaine Event Date 31 May 1810 Event Place Frensham,Surrey,England
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18 Mar 2019 19:22 |
and ?Ann Dutton 1841 with parents. William senior is a Farmer
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Churt, Lower, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place William Dutton Male 65 1776 Surrey, England Ann Dutton Female 55 1786 - William Dutton Male 30 1811 Surrey, England Ann Dutton Female 25 1816 Surrey, England
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18 Mar 2019 19:18 |
Relationships not shown on 1841 census but here is Charles Craft with possibly parents Thomas and Ann and Grandfather Jonathon
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Archdeaconry, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Thomas Craft Male 65 1776 - Not born in county Bricklayer Ann Craft Female 66 1775 Surrey, England Jonathan Craft Male 85 1756 Surrey, England Ag. Lab Charles Craft Male 28 1813 Surrey, England Bricklayer Thomas Bell Male 15 1826 - Jane Bell Female 12 1829 Surrey, England Daniel Read Male 7 1834 - George Hill Male 25 1816 Surrey, England
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18 Mar 2019 19:14 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Parish, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Craft Head Married Male 48 1813 Builder Frensham, Surrey, England Ann Craft Wife Married Female 44 1817 - Frensham, Surrey, England Charles Craft Son - Male 12 1849 - Frensham, Surrey, England Thomas Craft Son - Male 10 1851 - Frensham, Surrey, England Ann Mary Craft Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Frensham, Surrey, England Mary Elizth Craft Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Frensham, Surrey, England
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18 Mar 2019 19:08 |
Hilda's mother's birth
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: CRAFT, MARY ELIZABETH DUTTON GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 69
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1843 (>99%) BAKER Ann Farnham 4 130 Chuter Samuel Farnham 4 130 Craft Charles Farnham 4 130 <<<<<<<< Dutton Ann Farnham 4 130 <<<<<<<< Gosden Hannah Farnham 4 130 Keen James Farnham 4 130 Lawrence Elizabeth Farnham 4 130 Moore George Farnham 4 130
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18 Mar 2019 17:08 |
1901 henry with mother mary and brother william Henry Last name Brooks Relationship Son Marital status - Sex Male Age 2 Birth year 1899 Birth town Woolwich Birth town as transcribed WOOLWICH Birth place England Birth place other as transcribed - Birth county Kent Birth county as transcribed LONDON Occupation - House name - House number - Street Harrow Road Town - Parish Aldershot (Hants) Country England County Hampshire Municipal ward - Registration district Farnham Other household member first name(s) - Other household member last name - Archive reference RG13 Piece number 613 Folio 9 Page 11
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18 Mar 2019 16:59 |
From another free site - https://www.familysearch.org
Possible marriage of Richard Bonner and Sarah from the 1841 census
Richard Bonner mentioned in the record of Richard Bonner and Sarah West Name Richard Bonner Spouse's Name Sarah West Event Date 12 Feb 1813 Event Place Frensham,Surrey,England
Several baptisms showing for their children on that same site
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18 Mar 2019 16:53 |
Looks to be William with his parents in 1841. Ages above 15 were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5, so if William was 24 then that would make the birth c1817 as per later census
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Pierepoint, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Richard Bonner Male 55 1786 Surrey, England Sarah Bonner Female 54 1787 Surrey, England James Bonner Male 24 1817 Surrey, England William Bonner Male 20 1821 Surrey, England Richard Bonner Male 15 1826 Surrey, England
Richard Senior is an Ag. Lab. , James a Gardener, William an Ag. Lab and Richard a Male servant
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18 Mar 2019 16:44 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Bonner Head Married Male 36 1815 Agricultl Labourer Frensham, Surrey, England Mary Bonner Wife Married Female 31 1820 - Frensham, Surrey, England Jane Bonner Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1843 Sholar Frensham, Surrey, England William Bonner Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 Sholar Frensham, Surrey, England Mary Bonner Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Frensham, Surrey, England John Bonner Son - Male 2 1849 - Frensham, Surrey, England Infant - Son - Male 0 1851 - Frensham, Surrey, England
Infant Bonner is only 4 days old from original - (to be Richard)
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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BONNER, RICHARD WARNER GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 04 Page 170
Children born before "Infant" appear to have been registered with no mmn showing but the parents married 1842
--------------------------------- Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1842 (>99%) BONNER William Farnham 4 97 CRANSTONE Jane Farnham 4 97 SMITH William Farnham 4 97 WARNER Mary Farnham 4 97
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18 Mar 2019 16:38 |
in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 View British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
View Packet Cover
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Name: William Henry Brooks Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1872 Birth Place: Plumstead, Kent, England Marriage Date: 14 Apr 1894 Marriage Place: Woolwich Age: 19 Document Year: 1891 Regimental Number: 85515 Regiment Name: Royal Artillery Form Title: Short Service Attestation Number of Images: 21 Other Records: Search for 'William Henry Brooks' in other WWI collections Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier William Henry Brooks Self (Head) Mary Donovan Spouse William Alfred Stanley Brooks Child Henry George Brooks Child Ivy Mabel Brooks Child Reginald John Brooks Child
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18 Mar 2019 16:34 |
Richard Bonner with family - Father and son both Gamekeepers. William Bonner is a Widower
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Pierepont Farm, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Bonner Head - Male 54 1817 - Surrey, England Richard Bonner Son - Male 19 1852 - Surrey, England Ellen Bonner Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Surrey, England Annie Bonner Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Surrey, England Emily Bonner Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Surrey, England Fredrick Bonner Son - Male 9 1862 - Surrey, England Eliza Bonner Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Surrey, England Kate Bonner Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Surrey, England
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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Parish, Frensham, Farnham, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Benner Head Married Male 44 1817 Shepherd Frensham, Surrey, England Mercy Benner Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 - Frensham, Surrey, England William Benner Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Agricultural Labourer Frensham, Surrey, England Mercy Benner Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 - Frensham, Surrey, England John Benner Son - Male 12 1849 - Frensham, Surrey, England Richard Benner Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Frensham, Surrey, England Ellen Benner Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Frensham, Surrey, England Anne Benner Daughter - Female 6 1855 - Frensham, Surrey, England Emily Benner Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Frensham, Surrey, England Fredrick Benner Son - Male 1 1860 - Frensham, Surrey, England
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18 Mar 2019 16:28 |
1881 - there's a transcription that didn't show up with variant names !! To be fair, I think it looks closer to Bound on the original
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Abbotswood Lodge, Binsted, Alton, Hampshire, England
Charles K Bound's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Richard Bound Head Married Male 31 1850 Gamekeeper Frensham, Surrey, England Mary E Bound Wife Married Female 26 1855 - Frensham, Surrey, England Charles K Bound Son Single Male 3 1878 - Guildford, Surrey, England George T C Bound Son Single Male 2 1879 - Binsted, Hampshire, England William A Bound Son Single Male 0 1881 - Binsted, Hampshire, England
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18 Mar 2019 16:21 |
WILLIAM HENRY Last name BROOKS Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1894 Registration month - WILLIAM HENRY BROOKS married one of these people
Mary Donovan District Woolwich District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Volume as transcribed 1D Page number 1531
? 1881 William Last name Brooks Relationship - Marital status Single Sex Male Age 18 Birth year 1873 Birth town Leicester Birth town as transcribed LEICESTER Birth county Leicestershire Birth county as transcribed LEICESTERSHIRE Birth place England Occupation Gunner Royal Artillery Street - Town - Parish Woolwich City - County London, Kent Country England Registration district Woolwich Archive reference RG12
William Henry Last name Brooks Age 40 Birth year 1872 Birth town Plumstead Birth county Kent Birth country England Service number 85515 Regiment Royal Horse & Field Artillery Unit / Battalion 51st, 2nd, 26th, 82nd Battery Year 1912 Residence town Faversham Residence county Kent Residence country England Series WO 363 Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents' Piece number 534 Folio 68 Page 6 Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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18 Mar 2019 16:19 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Keepers Cottage, Buckshorn Oak Lane, Binsted, Alton, Hampshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Richard Bonner Head Married Male 39 1852 Game Keeper Surrey, England Mary E Bonner Wife Married Female 37 1854 - Surrey, England Charles R Bonner Son - Male 13 1878 - Surrey, England George T Bonner Son - Male 12 1879 - Hampshire, England William A Bonner Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Hampshire, England Eveline M M Bonner Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Hampshire, England Harvey J Bonner Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Hampshire, England Harry E Bonner Son - Male 5 1886 - Hampshire, England Annie M Bonner Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Hampshire, England Ethel E Bonner Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Hampshire, England
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18 Mar 2019 16:11 |
could this be william
Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924) Archive reference REG1 Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms First name(s) William A S Sex Male Last name Brooks Birth year 1894 Regiment Royal Artillery Type Armed Forces Country England Place Woolwich Page 19 Archive
Name: William Alfred S Brooks Registration Year: 1894 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Woolwich Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 1173
BROOKS, WILLIAM ALFRED STANLEY DONOVAN GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1173
1939 55 Army Avenue , Surbiton M.B., Surrey, England Add to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number William A S Brooks 11 Aug 1894 Male Postman Married 253 1 Hilda G Brooks 15 Mar 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 253 2 Hilda G E Brooks 10 Jun 1918 Female Store Supervisor Britons Hor? Married 253 3 General Register Office Record's year range 1894 Volume 480 Line number 92 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births Collections from Great Britain, England
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18 Mar 2019 16:10 |
To look at the record you 'linked' members would have to use 5 credits.
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18 Mar 2019 16:07 |
Hilda and William on the 1939 register
Hilda G Brooks on the 1939 Register
1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION Brooks Household (5 People) 57 Army Avenue , Surbiton M.B., Surrey, England Add to tree View original image Print FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Hilda G Brooks 15 Mar 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 253 2 William A S Brooks 11 Aug 1894 Male Postman Married 253 1 Hilda G E Brooks 10 Jun 1918 Female Store Supervisor Britons Hor? Married 253 3 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Daughter Hilda GE has been wrongly transcribed from the original, where she is shown as single. She must have died for her to be an open record.
The 2 closed records will be for other children of the couple - deaths up to 1990 when Register stopped being used are not showing in deaths, so they are still closed records. You can find their names on freebmd The other birth in St Ives will belong to a couple Brooks/Bonner who married in St Ives 1938 I expect
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