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ArgyllGran
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23 Mar 2019 21:34 |
That 1911 does certainly look like Frederick, alviegal.
And the 1942 death could be his - Melton is in Deben reg district.
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23 Mar 2019 21:14 |
Could this also be his death?
First name(s) FREDERICK Last name SHARMAN Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1861 Age 81 Death quarter 2 Death year 1942 District Deben County Suffolk Volume 4A Page 1614
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23 Mar 2019 20:55 |
I think this may be Frederick in 1911. Everyone is described as 'lunatic.' How sad to be reduced to just initials, not even having your full name written out.
1911 Census For England & Wales
Melton Woodbridge, Melton, Suffolk, England
First name(s) F Last name S Relationship Inmate Marital status Married Sex Male Age 50 Birth year 1861 Occupation Gardener Address Melton Woodbridge Parish Melton County Suffolk Country England Archive reference RG14 Registration district Woodbridge Registration district number 214 Enumeration district 19 District number 19 Sub district Woodbridge and Wilford Sub district number 3 Census reference RG14PN10905 RD214 SD3 ED19 SN9999 RG78 code number 588 Piece number 10905
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23 Mar 2019 09:47 |
As shown, Frederick was a hospital patient in Suffolk in 1939, and Emma was widowed before 1964.
It's therefore reasonable to think that the 1944 death you found is that of your Frederick. His age fits:
Frederick Sharman in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Frederick Sharman Death Age: 81 Birth Date: abt 1863 Registration Date: Jun 1944 Registration district: Ipswich Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 1082
You'd really have to buy the cert to be absolutely sure, but if it were my search, I would feel pretty confident about it.
As far as divorce (or not) is concerned -
he's not with Emma in either 1901 or 1911, but she's listed as married. In 1939 he's described as married, and at Emma's death she's described as widow, which sounds as if they hadn't divorced.
Emma's also on her own in 1939, but listed as married:
Emma Sherman in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Emma Sherman Gender: Female Marital status: Married Birth Date: 22 Mar 1870 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 2. Residence Place: Blyth, Suffolk, England Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Schedule Number: 93 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: TXAJ Registration district: 216-1 Household Members: Name Emma Sherman
[ The 1939 entry and 1948 death of Emma A Sharman posted by Maddie aren't the right person. That one's maiden name was Skase.]
St Audry's Hospital, where Frederick was in 1939, was a psychiatric hospital. Perhaps he was a long-tem patient , from before 1901 ??
I can't see him anywhere in 1911.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Audry%27s_Hospital
1901, just for our reference. Abbott is the name of the prisoner in the line above - mistranscription on Ancestry:
Frederick Abbott in the 1901 England Census Name: Frederick Abbott [Frederick Sherman] Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation to Head: Prisoner Gender: Male Birth Place: Framsden, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Ipswich County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Occupation: Gardener ( not domestic) Registration district: Ipswich Sub-registration district: Ipswich Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: His Majestys Prison Neighbors: Piece: 1781 Folio: 154 Page Number: 3 Household schedule number: 1
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22 Mar 2019 13:19 |
Name: Emma Sherman Death Age: 93 Birth Date: abt 1871 Registration Date: Mar 1964 Registration district: Blyth Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4b Page: 877
Name: Emma Sherman...........widow Death Date: 27 Jan 1964 Death Place: Suffolk, England Probate Date: 13 Feb 1964 Probate Registry: Ipswich Probate to Frederick George Sherman, retired Hardware Dealer
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alviegal
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22 Mar 2019 12:40 |
1939 Register Transcription
Paxman Household (6 People) 29 College Road , Blyth R.D., Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Edward L Paxman 23 Jul 1885 Male Motoe Engineer Married 16 1 Beatrice E Paxman 22 Dec 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 16 2 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Cyril A Matum 28 Mar 1914 Male Hairdresser (Master) Single 16 4 Elsie M Dobson (Dodd) 22 Oct 1928 Female At School Single 16 5 Joyce Aptoorp (Dodd) 18 Apr 1930 Female At School Single 16 6
Edward's death. He either gave the wrong year of birth above or it was written mistakenly.
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
First name(s) EDWARD LIONEL Last name PAXMAN Gender Male Birth day 23 Birth month 7 Birth year 1895 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 1977 District Blyth County Suffolk Volume 10 Page 2297
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alviegal
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22 Mar 2019 12:38 |
Beatrice?
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
First name(s) BEATRICE ELLEN Last name PAXMAN Gender Female Birth day 22 Birth month 12 Birth year 1899 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1973 District Ipswich County Suffolk Volume 4B Page 2587
and her marriage.
BEATRICE E Last name SHERMAN Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1935 Registration month -
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BEATRICE E SHERMAN married one of these people
Edward L Paxman Spouse's last name Paxman District Blyth District number - County Suffolk Country England Volume 4A Volume as transcribed 4A Page number 2876
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alviegal
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22 Mar 2019 12:18 |
SHERMAN, Cecil Andrew of Manor Farm Cratfield Halesworth Suffolk died 9 June 1983. administration Ipswich 31 Aug not exceeding £25000
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk
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21 Mar 2019 13:16 |
this must be charles spelt sharman bosmere covers Framsden area
Births Mar 1863 SHARMAN Charles Frederick Bosmere 4a 563
Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%) Banthorpe Emma Hoxne 4a 1229 Scan available - click to view Sharman Charles Frederick Hoxne 4a 1229
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21 Mar 2019 13:11 |
Cecil's birth.
Name: Cecil Andrew Sharmen Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Bosmere Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 886
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Maddie
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21 Mar 2019 13:10 |
1901 Fentons Farm, Dennington, Hoxne, Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Banthorpe Head Married Male 65 1836 Stockman On Farm Dennington, Suffolk, England Lettia Banthorpe Wife Married Female 62 1839 - Dennington, Suffolk, England Fred Banthorpe Son Single Male 35 1866 Horseman On Farm Dennington, Suffolk, England George Banthorpe Son Single Male 27 1874 Horseman On Farm Dennington, Suffolk, England Mary Ann Banthorpe Daughter Single Female 23 1878 - Dennington, Suffolk, England Emma Sherman Daughter-In-Law Married Female 31 1870 - Dennington, Suffolk, England Vera E Sherman Grand Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Suffolk, England C Andrew Sherman Grand Son - Male 3 1898 - Suffolk, England Beatrice Ellen Sherman Grand Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Suffolk, England
1939 White House Farm New Street , Hartismere R.D., Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Cecil A Sherman 06 Dec 1897 Male Poultry Farmer Own Account Married 2 1 Violet E Sherman 16 Dec 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 2 2 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Jack C Sherman 20 Aug 1939 Male Under School Age Single 2 4
1911 Soham Road Dennington, Dennington, Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Banthorpe Head Married Male 75 1836 Old Age Pensioner Dennington Suffolk Letty Banthorpe Wife Married Female 73 1838 Old Age Pensioner Worlingworth Suffolk Cecil Sherman Grandson - Male 13 1898 School Grocer's Errand Boy Cretting Suffolk
CECIL ANDREW Last name SHERMAN Gender Male Birth day 6 Birth month 12 Birth year 1897 Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1983 District Gipping & Hartismere County Essex Volume 10 Page 2343
CECIL A Last name SHIRMAN Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1924 Registration month -
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CECIL A SHIRMAN married one of these people
Violet E Clarke Spouse's last name Clarke District Hartismere District number - County Suffolk Country England Volume 4A Volume as transcribed 4A Page number 2148
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Choccy
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21 Mar 2019 13:08 |
1939 register
Sherman Household (4 People)
White House Farm New Street , Hartismere R.D., Suffolk, England
Cecil A Sherman 06 Dec 1897 Male Poultry Farmer Own Account Married 2 1 Violet E Sherman 16 Dec 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 2 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Jack C Sherman 20 Aug 1939 Male Under School Age Single 2 4
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21 Mar 2019 13:02 |
England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Cecil Andrew Sharmen
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Bosmere
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 886
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Maddie
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21 Mar 2019 12:52 |
cannot find a birth for cecil
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21 Mar 2019 12:27 |
Frederick Sharman on the 1939 Register
1939 Register Transcription
Household (1 Person) St Audoys Hospital St Audry's Hospital Melton,Woodbridge,Suffolk , Deben R.D., Suffolk, England Add to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Institutional role Schedule Schedule Sub Number Frederick Sharman ? ? 1861 Male Gardener Married Patient 1 18
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alviegal
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21 Mar 2019 12:21 |
1939 Register Transcription
Sherman Household (4 People) , Blyth R.D., Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Frederick (C) should be G Sherman 29 Aug 1892 Male Oil & Hardware E-E Rounds M Married 74 1 Doris M Sherman 17 Aug 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Dutie Married 74 2 Richard G Sherman 09 Feb 1925 Male At School Single 74 3 Frank M Sherman 25 Oct 1929 Male At School Single 74 4
FREDERICK G Last name SHERMAN Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1922 Registration month -
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FREDERICK G SHERMAN married one of these people
Doris M Clarke Spouse's last name Clarke District Ipswich District number - County Suffolk Country England Volume 4A Volume as transcribed 4A Page number 2520
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alviegal
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21 Mar 2019 12:10 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Ipswich Road, Framsden, Bosmere, Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Sherman Head Married Male 66 1835 Horseman On Farm Cretingham, Suffolk, England Ellen Sherman Wife Married Female 65 1836 - Framsden, Suffolk, England Phoebe Sherman Daughter Single Female 26 1875 - Framsden, Suffolk, England Caleb Sherman Son Single Male 24 1877 Ag Laborer Framsden, Suffolk, England >>Frederick Sherman Grand Son - Male 8 1893 - Dennington, Suffolk, England Seville Sherman Grand Son - Male 4 1897 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England Effie Sherman Grand Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Framsden, Suffolk, England
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Maddie
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21 Mar 2019 12:02 |
Frederick George Last name Sherman Birth year 1893 Baptism year 1893 Baptism date 18 Jun 1893 Parish Framsden, St Mary Place Framsden Father's first name(s) Frederick Charles Mothers first name(s) Emma Father's occupation Gardener Residence Framsden Notes bn 30 Aug 1892 Dennington; recd County Suffolk Country England Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 3) Entry number 537 Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
FREDERICK GEORGE Last name SHERMAN Gender Male Birth day 29 Birth month 8 Birth year 1892 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1982 District Hartismere County Suffolk Volume 10 Page 2544 Country England Record set
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alviegal
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21 Mar 2019 11:53 |
First name(s) VERA ADELAIDE Last name SHERMAN Birth year 1895 Marriage year 1920 Marriage day 1 Marriage month Nov Spouse's first name(s) WILLIAM HOBSON Spouse's last name KNIGHT Place NEWTON NEAR CAMBRIDGE Groom's first name(s) William Hobson Groom's last name KNIGHT Groom's marital status bac Groom's age 23 Groom's occupation bank clerk Groom's residence of St Marys Newington London SE Groom's father's first name(s) Thomas Groom's father's occupation deceased Bride's first name(s) Vera Adelaide Bride's last name SHERMAN Bride's marital status sp Bride's age 25 Bride's father's first name(s) Frederick >>Bride's father's occupation deceased By licence or banns by banns County Cambridgeshire
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21 Mar 2019 11:48 |
Name: Vera A Sherman Registration Date: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920 Registration district: Chesterton Inferred County: Cambridgeshire Spouse: William H Knight Volume Number: 3b Page Number: 1295
Name: Vera Adelaide Sherman Record Type: Banns (Bann) Marriage Banns Date: 10 Oct 1920 Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Newington, Southwark, England Spouse: William Hobson Knight Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Vera A Knight Death Age: 65 Birth Date: abt 1896 Registration Date: Mar 1961 Registration district: Ealing Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 5e Page: 250
31 Elton Avenue , Ealing M.B., Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Vera A Knight 27 Sep 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 33 2 William H Knight 07 Mar 1897 Male Bank Clerk Married 33 1 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Walter F Witt 05 Jan 1884 Male Bank Clerk Married 33 4
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