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Hi ,i am so stuck , i am wondering if anyone has advice my gggrandfather was Richard Thomas from REDRUTH CORNWALL he was born around 1796, my ggrandad was Thomas his son , on Thomas marriage certificate it lists him as a farmer ?? 1852. Thomas was born 1818. looks like mother Ann . in Redruth. all i keep finding are miners with that name ?? kind regards Tracy

This (below) is the only Thomas, son of a Richard and Ann , that I can find - born in Camborne, several miles from Redruth.
Is this your Thomas ?
But as you say, his father is listed as a miner. That's in the Devon & Cornwall Record Society's book of Camborne births, marriages, and burials, printed 1945.

Can't see any original baptism document. I suppose it's just possible it might be a mistranscription in the book ??

Or maybe Richard changed his occupation between 1818 and 1852.



Name: Thomas Thomas
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 Oct 1818
Christening Date (Original): 10 OCT 1818
Christening Place: CAMBORNE,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Richard Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann

How do you know his mother's name was Ann?

There's this baptism in Redruth, as a possible alternative? Unfortunately there's no image to view, so I don't know his father's occupation.

Name: Thomas Thomas
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Apr 1816
Christening Date (Original): 21 APR 1816
Christening Place: REDRUTH,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Richard Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane


Who did your Thomas marry?

must be a previous thread as i have looked at this before, ticks on fmp against the records

Hi because of his age on his marriage certificate . 1816 is too young , camborne is in Redruth district . seems a big change from miner to farmer thats the confusion >>

he married Martha key in 1852 in liverpool

he married Martha key in 1852 in liverpool

for ref

Thomas
Last name Thomas
Age 35
Birth year 1817
Occupation Labourer
Marital status Bachelor
Year 1852
Marriage year 1852
Marriage date 07 Nov 1852
Place Toxteth Park, St John the Baptist
Denomination Church Of England
Diocese Liverpool
Residence 38 Upper Man ST
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Thomas
Father's occupation Farmer
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Spouse's last name Rey
Spouse's age 37
Spouse's birth year 1815
Spouse's marital status Spinster
Spouse's residence 33 Upper Bedford St
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Rey
Spouse's father's occupation Smith
Witness 1 John Rimmer
Witness 2 Elizabeth Quines
County Lancashire
Country England
Archive
Liverpool Record Office
Archive reference 283-BAP-3-4
Register type Marriages
Register year range 1851-1856

He's listed as miner here:

Thomas Thomas

in the 1861 England Census
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Name: Thomas Thomas
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Redouth, Cornwall , England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 174
Piece: 2700
Folio: 113
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Thomas 43
Martha Thomas 47
Richard Keys 11

Tracy is concerned about Richard's occupation, not Thomas's.

Thanks, ArgyllGran, I read it wrong. Just another senior moment!

siblings to go wth ArgyllGran ost

RICHARD
Last name THOMAS
Gender Male
Birth year 1822
Baptism year 1822
Baptism date 27 Apr 1822
Parish Camborne
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name -
Relationship Son

ANNE
Last name THOMAS
Gender Female
Birth year 1815
Baptism year 1815
Baptism date 16 Dec 1815
Parish Camborne
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Anne
Mother's last name -
Relationship Dau
Place CAMBORNE

just a maybe

probate
late of bolenbowe cambourne cornwall, farmer deceased died 19/11/1864 cambourne
proved at Bodmin by henry thomas of cambourne aforesaid famer the son sole executor
effects under £100

Name: Richard Thomas
Death Date: 19 Nov 1864
Death Place: Cornwall, England
Probate Date: 19 Apr 1865
Probate Registry: Bodmin

??
1861
farmer of 16 acres

Name: Richard Thomas
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Grace Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Camborne
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Camborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 12d
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 78
Piece: 1584
Folio: 112
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Thomas 60
Grace Thomas 61
Elizabeth Thomas 28


Name: Grace Martin
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 11 Apr 1820
Marriage Place: Camborne,Cornwall,England
Spouse: Richard Thomas
FHL Film Number: 1471743 IT 2-3

Henry
Last name Thomas
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1837
Baptism date 07 Jan 1837
Place Camborne
County Cornwall
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Grace

1851
he is a miner

Name: Richard Thomas
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Grace Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Camborne
Ecclesiastical parish: Treslothan St John
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Camborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 1k
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 91
Piece: 1916
Folio: 334
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Thomas 60
Grace Thomas 59
William Thomas 21
Elizabeth Thomas 19
Grace Thomas 17
Henry Thomas 15

For anything Cornwall relating, below are always worth a look round on...

Chris :)

https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

yes he was alive in 1852 . grace does not seem to fit tbh unless he married twice ?/ really a mystery

Where is Thomas 1871, any children?, their names might relate...

Chris :)

Deleted unwanted info re Thomas.

I AM RESEARCHING RICHARD NOT THOMAS AND THOMAS WAS STILL ALIVE IN 1861 HE DIED 1889.

Richard sorry .
and no they only had Richard they married late in life