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I am trying to locate Benjamin Davies on the 1851 census, not only can I not find him but according to the Census there were no Benjamin Davies's at all in Wales which is obviously wrong.
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Benjamin Davies born 1820, parish Llandyssil Cardiganshire on 1841 census
Ref. HO107, Book 14 Folio 17 Page 13 Piece 1377

Benjamin Davies born 1820, parish Llandygwdd Cardiganshire on 1861 census
Ref. RG09, Folio 56 Page 17 Piece 4178

Benjamin Davies born 1820, parish Llandygwdd Cardiganshire on1871 census
Ref. RG10, Folio 106 Page 1 Piece 5542

His first marriage was to Jane Thomas in 1850 which should be on the elusive 1851 census.

There's a lot of Benjamin Davies what was his occupation on the other census please?

Which website are you using for your census search?

According to the 1861 census that you mention (piece, folio and page numbers match) he was born Brongwyn but lived in Llandygwydd and wife's name was Elizabeth.

Are you sure this is the right marriage

Marriages Sep 1850
Davies Benjamin Cardigan 27 49
THOMAS Jane Cardigan 27 49

Do you have the cert for its info

How have you got back to him?

Is this connected with your thread about 1871?

is this the first wife jane

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Jane Davies
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name:
Jane Davies
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1851
Event Place:
Merthyer Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Registration District:
Merthyr Tydfil
Gender:
Female
Age:
21
Marital Status:
Married
Relationship to Head of Household:
Wife
Birth Year (Estimated):
1830
Birthplace:
Merthyr, Glamorganshire
Page Number:
42
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
2458 / 197
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Benjamin Davies Head Male 22 Merthyr, Glamorganshire
Jane Davies Wife Female 21 Merthyr, Glamorganshire
John Lewis Relative Male 52 Merthyr, Glamorganshire
Mary Lewis Relative Female 19 Merthyr, Glamorganshire
William Lewis Relative Male 12 Merthyr, Glamorganshire

England and Wales Census, 1861
Name:
Jane Davies
County:
Carmarthenshire
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1861
Event Place:
Llandefeilog, Carmarthenshire, Wales, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Llandefeilog, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Registration District:
Carmarthen
Residence Note:
Byrbead
Gender:
Female
Age:
31
Marital Status:
Married
Relationship to Head of Household:
Wife
Birth Year (Estimated):
1830
Birthplace:
Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire
Page Number:
21
Registration Number:
RG09
Piece/Folio:
4136 / 51
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Benjamin Davies Head Male 29 Trelech, Carmarthenshire
Jane Davies Wife Female 31 Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire
Eliza Lewis Servant Female 15 Pembroke,
David Davies Son Male 0 Llandefeilog, Carmarthenshire

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Out House, Llandyssil, Newcastle in Emlyn, Cardiganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Benjamin Davies Male 21 1820 Cardiganshire, Wales
Evan Davies Male 12 1829 Cardiganshire, Wales


Your 1861.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Boushirwaun, Llandygwydd, Cardigan, Cardiganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Benjamin Davies Head Married Male 40 1821 Agricultural Labourer - CARDIGAN BRONGWYN
Elizabeth Davies Wife Married Female 38 1823 - CARDIGAN LLANDYGWYDD-
John Davies Son - Male 9 1852 - CARDIGAN LLANDYGWYDD-
David Davies Son - Male 8 1853 - CARDIGAN LLANDYGWYDD-
Joshua Davies Son - Male 5 1856 - CARDIGAN LLANDYGWYDD-



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Tanybryn, Llandygwydd, Cardigan, Cardiganshire, Wales


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Benjamin Davies Head - Male 51 1820 labourer- Cardiganshire, Wales
Elizabeth Davies Wife - Female 48 1823 - Cardiganshire, Wales
Mary Davies Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Cardiganshire, Wales
Esther Davies Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Cardiganshire, Wales
Owen Davies Son - Male 6 1865 - Cardiganshire, Wales

This is that 1850 marriage.

Cardiganshire Marriages And Banns

First name(s) Benjamin
Last name Davies, labourer of Croesfer?
Age Full
Event year 1850
Marriage year 1850
Marriage date 12 Sep 1850
Marriage place Llandygwydd
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Davies, shoemaker
Spouse's first name(s) Jane
Spouse's last name Thomas, widow residing at Noyudd
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's father's first name(s) David
Spouse's father's last name Evans, tailor
County Cardiganshire

John Evans and Thomas George were witnesses.

This marriage is to an Elizabeth, possible for 1861 and 1871 Census.

Cardiganshire Marriages And Banns

First name(s) Benjamin
Last name Davies, labourer a widower from Ponthiresens?
Age Full
Marriage year 1858
Marriage date 23 Dec 1858
Marriage place Llandygwydd
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Davies, shoemaker
Spouse's first name(s) John (should read Elizabeth)
Spouse's last name Davies (should read Jones) of Ffynongarreg
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's father's first name(s) Owen
Spouse's father's last name Jones, labourer
County Cardiganshire


Owen Jones and John Thomas were witnesses.

EDIT Possibly too late if they had a child in 1852.
EDIT I've just read your other post so these are correct.

Wonder if this may be Jane in 1841 before her first marriage? Her father, David is a tailor.


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Ffynonfach Fwydfach, Llandygwidd, Cardigan, Cardiganshire, Wales
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First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
David Evans Male 50 1791 Cardiganshire, Wales
Mary Evans Female 48 1793 Cardiganshire, Wales
>Jane Evans Female 26 1815 Cardiganshire, Wales
William Evans Male 15 1826 Cardiganshire, Wales
Benjamin Evans Male 15 1826 Cardiganshire, Wales
Thomas Evans Male 12 1829 Cardiganshire, Wales
Joshuah Evans Male 7 1834 Cardiganshire, Wales


Yes, here is her first marriage.


Cardiganshire Marriages And Banns

First name(s) Jane
Last name Evans
Age Full
Marriage year 1842
Marriage date 14 Apr 1842
Marriage place Llandygwydd
Father's first name(s) David
Father's last name Evans, tailor
Spouse's first name(s) Benjamin
Spouse's last name Thomas, mason
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's father's last name Thomas, labourer
Spouse's father's first name(s) Evan
County Cardiganshire
Country Wales


Evan Thomas and Benjamin George were witnesses.

I know you all mean well, but the poster asked only for 1851 census

Poster responded by PM to my question. She is using GR. to try to research.

Poster responses to my post too saying she got back to benjamin and Jane through their son Joshua

Joshua's birth - purely for INFO

DAVIES, JOSHUA EVANS
GRO Reference: 1856 M Quarter in CARDIGAN Volume 11B Page 13

Message from June, re my query as to occupation on other census have asked her to reply on the thread.

1861 CENSUS AGRICULTURAL LABOURER
1871 CENSUS NOT STATED

Poster mentions death of first wife on her other thread, but only speculatively. No firm info

This MAY be the one - for the woman's age, which may help to find her and Benjamin

DAVIES, JANE 40
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in CARDIGAN Volume 11B Page 7

???????

1851
Ponthyrwen, Llandygwydd, Cardigan, Cardiganshire, Wales

Jane Davies Head Married Female 34 1817 Mdle Woman Llandygwydd, Cardiganshire, Wales

Thanks everyone for all your assistance, I have gained much more information on my ancestors than expected. ALVIEGAL did hit the nail right on the head.