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14 Feb 2020 11:26 |
Who are her parents ?she married Charles James sparkes in cardiff they had 4 children the 1911 census has her age as 28 born in Glamorgan can find no birth record for 1883 any free l find has her birth as 1990 help please thanks
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14 Feb 2020 11:46 |
Helen Last name Elliott Age 23 Birth year 1882 Event year 1905 Banns year - Marriage year 1905 Marriage date 22 Aug 1905 Marriage place Grangetown Father's first name(s) George Father's last name Elliott Spouse's first name(s) Charles James Spouse's last name Sparkes Spouse's age 23 Spouse's birth year 1882 Spouse's father's last name Sparkes Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Chapman ------- County Glamorganshire Country Wales Event Marriage Page 178
1939 29 St Fagan's Street, Cardiff C.B., Glamorganshire, Wales e(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Helen Sparkes 29 Jun 1882 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 205 1 Thomas G Sparkes 22 Apr 1907 Male Ammunition Worker Rectifying Single 205 2
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2020 11:52 |
For our reference:
Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%) ELLIOTT Helen Cardiff 11a 534 Sparkes Charles James Cardiff 11a 534
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14 Feb 2020 11:57 |
From Ancestry:
Helen Sparkes
in the 1911 Wales Census View 1911 Wales Census
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Name: Helen Sparkes Age in 1911: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: Cardiff Search Photos: Search for 'Cardiff' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: 26 Oakley St Grange Cardiff Marital status: Married Years Married: 5 Estimated Marriage Year: 1906 Registration district: Cardiff Registration District Number: 588 Sub-registration district: West Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Household schedule number: 161 Piece: 32161 Household Members: Name Age Charles James Sparkes 28 Helen Sparkes 28 Frederick Charles Sparkes 4 Thomas George Sparkes 3 Canstance Helen Louisa Sparkes 1
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14 Feb 2020 11:57 |
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Helen Elliott in the 1901 Wales Census Name: Helen Elliott Age in 1901: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Cardiff Sub-registration district: Central Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 71 Piece: 4981 Folio: 79 Page Number: 24
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14 Feb 2020 12:09 |
EDIT: Oops! already posted.
Helen Sparkes in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Helen Sparkes Gender: Female Marital status: Widowed Birth Date: 29 Jun 1882 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 29 Residence Place: Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Occupation: Unpaid domestic duties Schedule Number: 205 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: XGJY Registration district: 588/2 Household Members: Name Helen Sparkes Thomas G Sparkes
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14 Feb 2020 12:20 |
1891 ???????????????? Francis Terrace, Penarth Road, Canton, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales George Eliott Head Married Male 30 1861 Masons Labourer Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Constance Eliott Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Bridgwater, Somerset, England Ellen Eliott Daughter - Female 10 1881 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Beatrice Eliott Daughter - Female 8 1883 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Alma Eliott Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Edith Eliott Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
ame: Mother's Maiden Surname: ELLIOTT, BEATRICE MAUD HARRIS GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in OF CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 265
Mother's Maiden Surname: ELLIOTT, EDITH JANE HARRIES GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 351
nothing on gro for helen or ellen
GEORGE Last name ELLIOTT Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1880 Registration month -
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GEORGE ELLIOTT married one of these people
Sarah Webb Rowe, Constance Lucy Harris District Cardiff District number -
Elizabeth Elener Last name Elliott Birth year 1886 Birth date ? ? 1886 Baptism year 1886 Baptism date 05 May 1886 Place Cardiff, St Mary County Glamorganshire Country Wales Father's first name(s) George Mother's first name(s) Constance
guess not unless she changed her name to helen
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2020 12:29 |
Yes, had just arrived at that couple as a possibility:
George Elliott in the 1881 Wales Census Name: George Elliott [George Harris] Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: Leckwith County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: 4 North St Condition as to marriage: Married Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Labourer Registration district: Cardiff Sub registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: Piece: 5284 Folio: 12 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Walter Harris 50 Ellen Harris 50 Henry William Harris 21 Constant Lucy Elliott 19 Ann Helmer Betrescitmelia Harris 16 Walter Fisher Benjamin Harris 12 Earnest Llewellyn Hatch Harris 10 Clifford Thomas Harris 6 George Elliott 20
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14 Feb 2020 12:30 |
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ELLIOTT, ELLEN ELIZABETH ANN mms HARRIS GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 258
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2020 12:35 |
It would be useful to know George's occupation from Helen's marriage cert.
George Elliott in the 1901 Wales Census Name: George Elliott Age in 1901: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse: Constance Elliott Gender: Male Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: Canton Ecclesiastical parish: Canton St Paul County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Cardiff Sub-registration district: West Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 245 Piece: 4987 Folio: 166 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age George Elliott 39 - gas stoker Constance Elliott 38 Alma Elliott 14 Edith Jane Elliott 10 Lydia A Elliott 8 Geo W Elliott 4 Constance M Elliott 2
Geo Elliott in the 1911 Wales Census Name: Geo Elliott Age in 1911: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Civil Parish: Cardiff County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: 1 North St Cardiff Marital status: Married Occupation: Labourer Registration district: Cardiff Registration District Number: 588 Sub-registration district: West Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 395 Piece: 32156 Household Members: Name Age Geo Elliott 49 Coustance Elliott 49 Geo Elliott 15 Annie Elliott 18
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Maddie
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14 Feb 2020 12:49 |
she does't seem to appear in any census under that name but helen sparkes has c daughter constance coincidence ?????
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caza
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14 Feb 2020 12:58 |
Thank you to everyone
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malyon
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14 Feb 2020 13:05 |
Helen Elliott England and Wales Census, 1901 Name: Helen Elliott Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Event Place: Glamorgan, Wales, United Kingdom County: Glamorganshire Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary Sub-District: Central Cardiff Registration District: Cardiff Gender: Female Age: 18 Occupation: GENERAL SERVANT (DOMESTIC) Relationship to Head of Household: Servant Birth Year (Estimated): 1883 Birthplace: Cardiff, Glamorganshire Schedule Type: 71 Page Number: 24 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace James Griffiths Head Male 31 Fishguard, Pembrokeshire Hannah Owen Step Sister Female 25 Cardiff, Glamorganshire Caroline J Bryant Servant Female 33 Cardiff, Glamorganshire Edith L Griffin Servant Female 20 Lea, Gloucestershire Helen Elliott Servant Female 18 Cardiff, Glamorganshire Edmund J Jones Lodger Male 49 Swansea, Glamorganshire Lewis W Gray Lodger Male 30 Swansea, Glamorganshire William J Jenkins Lodger Male 26 Swansea, Glamorganshire Albert E Lanman Lodger Male 30 Monmouth, Monmouthshire Phillip H Babbage Lodger Male 35 Bridgewater, Somersetshire Charles Phillips Lodger Male 47 Peterchurch, Herefordshire Frank Trott Lodger Male 24 Taunton, Somersetshire
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2020 13:07 |
Already posted, Malyon.
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malyon
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14 Feb 2020 13:07 |
Helen Sparkes England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name: Helen Sparkes Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year: 1964 Registration District: Cardiff County: Glamorganshire Event Place: Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Age: 81 Birth Year (Estimated): 1883 Volume: 8B Page: 147 Affiliate Line Number: 128
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2020 13:21 |
Marriage record posted by Maddie shows her father as George Elliott.
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Maddie
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14 Feb 2020 14:29 |
HARRIS, CONSTANCE LUCY ANN HATCH GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in CHARD Volume 05C Page 532
ELLIOTT, GEORGE JONES GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 215
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Maddie
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14 Feb 2020 14:40 |
lucy's parents and brother 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Polden Street, Bridgwater, Somerset, England Benjamin Hatch Head Widower Male 60 1801 Cordwainer Huntspill, Somerset, England Walter Harris Son In Law Married Male 30 1831 Agricultural Labourer Bruton, Somerset, England Ellen Harris Daughter Married Female 29 1832 - Bridgwater, Somerset, England Henry W Harris Grandson - Male 1 1860 - Bridgwater, Somerset, England
HARRIS, HENRY WILLIAM HATCH GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in BRIDGWATER Volume 05C Page 488
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Maddie
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14 Feb 2020 15:39 |
george's parents Name: Johanna Jones Registration Year: 1856 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Pembroke Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Pembrokeshire Volume: 11a Page: 783 George Elliott
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Rosemary Street, Llandaff, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales George Elliott Head - Male 43 1828 - Somerset, England Joanha Elliott Wife - Female 39 1832 - Pembrokeshire, Wales Sarah Jane Elliott - - Female 13 1858 - Glamorgan, Wales George Elliott - - Male 10 1861 - Glamorgan, Wales Henry John Elliott - - Male 6 1865 - Glamorgan, Wales William Elliott - - Male 3 1868 - Glamorgan, Wales Albert Elliott - - Male 1 1870 - Glamorgan, Wales Elizabeth Elliott - - Female 8 1863 - Glamorgan, Wales
ELLIOTT, HENRY JOHN JONES GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 250
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caza
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14 Jun 2020 13:33 |
If anyone has access to the 1939 register for Doris M Sparkes and Ronald O Jones both b1931 Cardiff thank you
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