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Is there a way of finding out where someone lived in the 60`s and 70`s in Scotland, who with and what children if any. I believe I have found out the identity of my biological father (now deceased) and I`d like to find out more about him. I have no-one to ask..Thanks

If you don't know where he lived, then I'm afraid the answer is "No".

Even if you knew in what town he lived, you would then still have to trawl through all the pages looking for his name, as the ERs are arranged by street name.

https://www.nls.uk/family-history/voters-rolls

There are a few exceptions.
Ancestry has Glasgow ER 1857-1962; Aberdeen ER 1832 - 1976; Edinburgh ER 1832 - 1966; and Fife ER 1914-66.
These are searchable by the person's name, on Ancestry, although unless it's an unusual name, it might not be much help in any case.

Thank you for replying ArgyllGran, I only know his name and the year he died from ScotlandsPeople and the R/D....Glasgow. Even if I knew enough to get a death certificate they are not being issued at the moment. Thanks again

Just seen I`d have to pay to see electoral roll on Ancestry, everybody always wants money I haven`t got!

If he died in the 1970s, which seems to be what you're implying, then access to Ancestry won't help, as the Glasgow ERs there only go up to 1962.

The National Library of Scotland is what you need for ERs - once you have (hopefully) discovered his address from his death cert.

(Although if the death cert gives his address, you don't need the ER - unless to find out who else of voting age might have been in the same household.)

See the link already posted, and also here:

https://www.nls.uk/family-history/questions

On the other hand, if he lived in Glasgow up to 1962, we might be able to find him for you on the ER at that time, if you care to give us his name - assuming it's not too common a name, and assuming he was eligible to vote.

Also, depending on what his name is, his age at death, which you will know from SP, might help to pinpoint his birth.

ArgyllGran Thank you so much for all your help. His name is Frank Ray, he died aged 50 in 1976, Glasgow, Martha St. I think he was probably around 1962 because a match for a half sister came up for me on MyHeritage, she was born 1961. She hasn`t logged in since last year so hasn`t responded to my message

If Frank or Francis was his birth first name, he wasn't born in Scotland.

The nearest wold be an Edwin Francis Ray, born in Colinton (Edinburgh) in 1925.

There were a couple Frank Rays born in England - but your Frank's mother's maiden name was KILJEWICZ, so he's not one of those.


I don't see a Ray/Kiljewicz (or variant spelling) marriage in Scotland, nor in England/Wales..

Death showing mmn

Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year Ref RD Name Image View
RAY FRANK 50 KILJEWICZ 1976 603/ 1047 Glasgow, Martha St
Certificates not available

No other deaths in Scotland with same mmn (post 1974 when mmn shown)

As far as the Glasgow ER is concerned, there are no Frank Rays there in the 1960's.

The latest one is this:

Frank Ray
in the Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1857-1962
Name: Frank Ray
Residence Year: 1956
Address: 733 [ mistranscribed - 119 Fulton Street on image ]
Residence Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division: Glasgow

There are no other Rays with him, although there are three other names at that address, because it would be a block of flats, with all the flats having the same address.

However, as ERs don't give ages, there's no way of knowing if that could be him or not.

Sorry, not much help after all!

Maybe he changed his name from a Polish (?) one to something more easily pronounced and spelled - if his father's name was also Polish.

Unfortunately, for such a relatively recent birth, it's not possible to use mms as a search term on SP.


{EDIT - though, having said that, I don't see any Kiljewicz (or similar) marriage to another Polish-sounding name in Scotland, nor in England/Wales.}

I'm afraid it looks as if you'll have to wait until you can get a copy of the death cert for further clues.

Kiljewicz was his mothers maiden name, just gonna read through your replies again, and thank you

You say a half sister was born 1961.

That's a huge gap, from 1926-ish to 1961.
If they are indeed siblings, that would almost certainly have to mean that they have the same father, but not the same mother.

A Frank Ray (x2) married in Glasgow 1966 (Father and son married same day ??)
EDIT - same reg. Reference though

Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name
RAY FRANK RUDOWICZ WLADYSLAW 1966 644/3 464 Glasgow

Both died 1976 Martha Street RD ( born c 1926) as per death age of Frank Ray

Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year Ref RD Name Image View
RUDOWICZ WLADYSLAW 50 1976 603/ 1047 Glasgow, Martha St

Registered also as Ray

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Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name
RAY FRANK LUTFI ANNA MAUREEN 1966 644/3 464 Glasgow

RAY FRANK ROBERTSON ANNA MAUREEN 1966 644/3 464 Glasgow

she died 2008 so b c1936

Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year Ref RD Name
RAY ANNA MAUREEN EL 72 ARCHIBALD 2008 577/ 522 Hamilton

Sorry, having reread your replies I can see I`ve repeated what you already stated. There is one thing I don`t understand. On SP there are two Anna Maureen (deceased) names, two different surnames names, both the same year 1966 married to Frank Ray, the surnames fit in with the scant family tree. Robertson, Lutfi and a Wladyslaw Rudowicz also 1966 to Frank Ray and all the same reference number. Hope you understand my reply. So that`s all 3 same reference number, same year and married to Frank Ray all listed one after the other. I found that really confusing

Well found, Greyghost!

Linda, the death of WLADYSLAW RUDOWICZ which GG found is the same death as Frank Ray - so that was his birth name.

AG - I'm a bit confused here - doesn't take much!

Frank Ray married Wladyslaw Rudowicz in 1966 and they both died 1976 in Martha Street RD. (but as you say same registration reference)

Her name at death is registered as both Rudowicz and Ray

Another Frank Ray married Anna Maureen Robertson / Lutfi and she died in 2008, although not seeing registration in any other than that name
EDIT = found the death with Lutfi surname same reg. details as Ray. My computer had reverted to LUFTI not Lutfi and so didn't show up.

From google -Wladyslaw is a Polish given male name, cognate with Vladislav. Feminine form is Wladyslawa. Alternate, archaic forms are Wlodzislaw (male) and Wlodzislawa (female).

Did registration miss off the end A? Or like my neighbours who gave a common male name to their daughter.

Re the 1966 marriage - it's all the same marriage:

Anna Maureen is listed twice, with two surnames she had been known by (Robertson and Lutfi) .
Robertson was her maiden name, and Lutfi a previous married name:

ROBERTSON
ANNA MAUREEN E
LUTFI
xxxxxxxx (forename removed in case still living)
1958
644/7 20
Kelvin

Frank is also listed as both Ray and Rudowicz - two names by which he was known.

The apparent marriage of Frank to himself as Rudowicz is also something to do with the fact that he had two names - you'd have to see the cert for details - obviously he didn't marry himself!

Yes he was born 1926 but his daughter is only 6 years younger than me, yes same father obviously not same mother, all the dates fit that he was my dad, my mum was born 1933. Thank you for everything ArgyllGran, I really appreciated your input

A big thank you to you too greyghost, your help is really much appreciated