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Hello again,

I cannot find the 1881 census for William and Mary Ann Cox. I would like to know where they were living at that time if possible.

Thank you

Rose

If anyone had found 1881 census they would have posted the info by now.

They may simply not been recorded

ArgyllGran,

ErikaH had checked the GRO index and said there were no children listed for Cox with Everson between 1875-1884 so I assumed no children. But low and behold

1891 census William Cox 44 WID Gravesend, Barge Waterman, William Cox 8 Woolwich, John Cox 7 living 44 Earl Street, Charlton, Greenwich

1901 census William Cox WID 48, general labourer, William 20 gen lab. John 18 gen lan, Amelia 16 living 48 West Street, Charlton, Greenwich

I dont get it. Still cannot find the 1881 census even with trying with the 2 boys

.Mary Ann Everson is my Gt.grandfathers sister so I am trying to follow her closely

Thank you so much for your help x

In that case, their births weren't registered - or if they were, they were incorrectly recorded

Check the index yourself - it's free

Those births were AFTER 1881

1891 mentioned above

William Cox Head Widower Male 44 1847 Barge Waterman Gravesend, Kent, England
William Cox Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Woolwich, Kent, England
John Cox Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Woolwich, Kent, England
Minnie Cox Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Woolwich, Kent, England

The boys were Sophia's illegitimate sons

WALTON, WILLIAM THOMAS -
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1171

WALTON, JOHN THOMAS -
GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1172

Rose -
did you read my posts on 23 June at 18:51 and 18:58?

I gave you the 1901 and 1911 censuses, explained about William's second marriage, and also posted the birth records of all three children, and the death of their mother (William's second wife).

There's no point looking for the boys in 1881, as they were both born after 1881.

Erika was correct in saying there were no Cox/Everson births.
The mother of all three children was Sophia Walton.

As far as 1881 is concerned - it's often the case that some people just weren't recorded.
Frustrating, I know - but that's just the way it is.

Sorry, AG - didn't spot your earlier post with the births - didn't look, to be honest

I assumed there was no info, in view of Rose's posts

No problem, Erika!

Name: William Thomas Cox
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Nov 1882
Baptism Place: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene, Greenwich, England
Father: William Cox
Mother: Sophia Warton Cox**********************************

Looks like William was 'playing away'

Name: Sophia Sarah Cox
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1889
Baptism Place: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene, Greenwich, England
Father: William Cox
Mother: Sophia Cox

COX, SOPHIA SARAH WALTON
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1182

Name: Sophia Sarah Cox
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Woolwich

Name: Sophia Cox
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: 19 Jan 1890
Burial or Cremation Date: 24 Jan 1890
Burial or Cremation Place: Greenwich, London, England

Interesting that William Thomas's birth was registered as Walton - but he was baptised as Cox.

Whereas John Thomas, born 2 years later, is both registered and baptised as Walton, with no mention of William:

John Thomas Walton
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: John Thomas Walton
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Dec 1883
Baptism Place: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene, Greenwich, England
Mother: Sophia Walton
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 12 Nile Street.

Same address as at William Thomas's baptism.

William listed as a railway porter, at William Thomas's baptism


Just for interest, here's an artist's impression of Nile Street dated 1888:
https://tinyurl.com/yau5jwp7

It was a slum area:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Woolwich

Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Cox Sophia 38 Woolwich 1d 638

Can't, at the moment, locate Sophia in 1881.

Not with her parents

Name: Amelia Gausden
[Amelia Cox]
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Woolwich
Civil Parish: Charlton and Kidbrooke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 48 West Street, Charlton
Marital status: Married
Registration district: Woolwich
Registration District Number: 30
Sub-registration district: Charlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Piece: 2847
Household Members:
Name Age
Percy Gausden 24
Amelia Gausden 25
Amelia Gausden 0
William Cox 68
William Cox 28

I see that alviegal also posted the 1891 census on page one of this thread

When William Thomas Walton/Cox was baptised in 1882, the family's address was given as 12 Nile Street.

In 1881, William Cox's parents Thomas and Ruth are at that address - posted by Kath on page 1 - 22 June, 12:10.

Only a year earlier - but Wiliam isn't there with any wife/partner.
So near and yet so far!