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When William Thomas Walton/Cox was baptised in 1882, the family's address was given as 12 Nile Street.

In 1881, William Cox's parents Thomas and Ruth are at that address - posted by Kath on page 1 - 22 June, 12:10.

Only a year earlier - but Wiliam isn't there with any wife/partner.
So near and yet so far!

I see that alviegal also posted the 1891 census on page one of this thread

Name: Amelia Gausden
[Amelia Cox]
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Woolwich
Civil Parish: Charlton and Kidbrooke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 48 West Street, Charlton
Marital status: Married
Registration district: Woolwich
Registration District Number: 30
Sub-registration district: Charlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Piece: 2847
Household Members:
Name Age
Percy Gausden 24
Amelia Gausden 25
Amelia Gausden 0
William Cox 68
William Cox 28

Can't, at the moment, locate Sophia in 1881.

Not with her parents

Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Cox Sophia 38 Woolwich 1d 638

Interesting that William Thomas's birth was registered as Walton - but he was baptised as Cox.

Whereas John Thomas, born 2 years later, is both registered and baptised as Walton, with no mention of William:

John Thomas Walton
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: John Thomas Walton
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Dec 1883
Baptism Place: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene, Greenwich, England
Mother: Sophia Walton
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 12 Nile Street.

Same address as at William Thomas's baptism.

William listed as a railway porter, at William Thomas's baptism


Just for interest, here's an artist's impression of Nile Street dated 1888:
https://tinyurl.com/yau5jwp7

It was a slum area:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Woolwich

Name: Sophia Sarah Cox
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1889
Baptism Place: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene, Greenwich, England
Father: William Cox
Mother: Sophia Cox

COX, SOPHIA SARAH WALTON
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1182

Name: Sophia Sarah Cox
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Woolwich

Name: Sophia Cox
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: 19 Jan 1890
Burial or Cremation Date: 24 Jan 1890
Burial or Cremation Place: Greenwich, London, England

Name: William Thomas Cox
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Nov 1882
Baptism Place: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene, Greenwich, England
Father: William Cox
Mother: Sophia Warton Cox**********************************

Looks like William was 'playing away'

No problem, Erika!

Sorry, AG - didn't spot your earlier post with the births - didn't look, to be honest

I assumed there was no info, in view of Rose's posts

Rose -
did you read my posts on 23 June at 18:51 and 18:58?

I gave you the 1901 and 1911 censuses, explained about William's second marriage, and also posted the birth records of all three children, and the death of their mother (William's second wife).

There's no point looking for the boys in 1881, as they were both born after 1881.

Erika was correct in saying there were no Cox/Everson births.
The mother of all three children was Sophia Walton.

As far as 1881 is concerned - it's often the case that some people just weren't recorded.
Frustrating, I know - but that's just the way it is.

The boys were Sophia's illegitimate sons

WALTON, WILLIAM THOMAS -
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1171

WALTON, JOHN THOMAS -
GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1172

In that case, their births weren't registered - or if they were, they were incorrectly recorded

Check the index yourself - it's free

Those births were AFTER 1881

1891 mentioned above

William Cox Head Widower Male 44 1847 Barge Waterman Gravesend, Kent, England
William Cox Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Woolwich, Kent, England
John Cox Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Woolwich, Kent, England
Minnie Cox Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Woolwich, Kent, England

ArgyllGran,

ErikaH had checked the GRO index and said there were no children listed for Cox with Everson between 1875-1884 so I assumed no children. But low and behold

1891 census William Cox 44 WID Gravesend, Barge Waterman, William Cox 8 Woolwich, John Cox 7 living 44 Earl Street, Charlton, Greenwich

1901 census William Cox WID 48, general labourer, William 20 gen lab. John 18 gen lan, Amelia 16 living 48 West Street, Charlton, Greenwich

I dont get it. Still cannot find the 1881 census even with trying with the 2 boys

.Mary Ann Everson is my Gt.grandfathers sister so I am trying to follow her closely

Thank you so much for your help x

If anyone had found 1881 census they would have posted the info by now.

They may simply not been recorded

Hello again,

I cannot find the 1881 census for William and Mary Ann Cox. I would like to know where they were living at that time if possible.

Thank you

Rose

You say you've found Mary Ann Cox's death in Plumstead in 1884.

For our reference:

Mary Ann Cox
in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003
Name: Mary Ann Cox
Age: 34
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1850
Death Date: abt 1884
Burial Date: 14 Oct 1884
Burial Place: St Margaret, Plumstead, Greenwich, England
Register Type: Parish Register

However, although the burial record says her abode was Armstrong Street, Plumstead, her death was registered in Wandsworth, and not Woolwich (which includes Plumstead).


Deaths Dec 1884 (>99%)
Cox Mary Ann 34 Wandsworth 1d 424

Possibly William's death ??

Deaths Jun 1925 (>99%)
Cox William 79 Woolwich 1d 1032

William Cox in 1911, with married daughter Amelia, and also the son/stepson William:

William Cox
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Cox
Age in 1911: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Father In Law
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Woolwich
Civil Parish: Charlton and Kidbrooke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 48 West Street, Charlton
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Woolwich
Registration District Number: 30
Sub-registration district: Charlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Piece: 2847
Household Members:
Name Age
Percy Gausden 24
Amelia Gausden 25
Amelia Gausden 0
William Cox 68
William Cox 28

Neither can I..

This is the 1901 census for that family in the 1891 census posted by Alviegal - it's the right family:

William Cox
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Cox
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Milton, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Charlton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Charlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Neighbors:
Piece: 562
Folio: 109
Page Number: 54
Household schedule number: 290
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cox 48 - widower, general labourer
William Cox 20
John Cox 18
Amelia Cox 16


Amelia/Minnie is William's child by a second marriage:

Amelia Cox
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Amelia Cox
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 May 1885
Baptism Place: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene, Greenwich, England
Father: William Cox
Mother: Sophia Cox
Register Type: Parish Registers

COX, AMELIA mms WALTON
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1139


William Cox
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: William Cox [ waterman and lighterman ]
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 37
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1848
Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1885
Marriage Place: St Nicholas, Plumstead, Greenwich, England
Father: Thomas Miriam Cox <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Sophia Walton
Register Type: Parish Register


Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Cox Sophia 38 Woolwich 1d 638



Births of the sons (stepsons) John and William:

WALTON, JOHN THOMAS -
GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1172

WALTON, WILLIAM THOMAS -
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1171