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Hi I have been researching my Great Grandfather got a while now to try and get some answers for my Nana. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Charles William Oliver Norcott - also known by Jack
Born: 29/01/1912 Lincolnshire, Yorkshire
Death: Unknown
Parents: Frederick James Norcott (1879-1975)
& Fanny Verge (1881-1975)

Married Florence Beryl Cynthia Whiteley (1936)
Children: Audrey (1937) & Wendy (1940) Norcott
Left his family 1944

Married Laura Cooper (1954)

Went to Canada around 1957 to set up home and was supposed to send for Laura

I have since been told he met a lady on the boat called Dorothy and married her, never sending for Laura?

My Nana is now 80 and never had any closure on what happened to her father so we are trying to fill in the gaps for her.

I have done a family tree on ancestry but after the marriage to Laura Cooper, Charles seems to disappear!

Birth actually registered Q1 1913

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Norcott Charles W O Vorge Thorne 9c 1904

RD Thorne covers parts of Lincs and WR Yorks

|s this Laura going out to Canada or a coincidence - address given is Homelea, Askern Road, Fishlake, Near Doncaster. States Married

Travelling with a Lynn Bolton born1948 from same address. Freeebmd shows possibly Lynn is her daughter (mmn Cooper, b Don Valley RD)

Both show as UK passport holders, Country of last permanent residence is Canada and Canada to be country of intended future permanent residence (Residence for more than 12 months in both columns here)

Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960

The Empress Of Britain
643 people were also on this ship.
See who they were
First name(s) Laura
Last name Norcott
Gender Female
Birth year 1912
Birth day 30
Birth month 7
Marital status M
Occupation Housewife
Departure year 1959
Departure day 18
Departure month 9
Departure port Liverpool
Destination port Montreal
Destination Montreal
Province Quebec
Country Canada
Destination country Canada
Ship name Empress Of Britain
Ship destination port Montreal
Ship destination country Canada
Number of passengers 0
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Collections from Great Britain, England, Canada, Americas
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Ahh!! - Charles W Norcott left London 26.5.1957 on Trans World Airlines flight to New York
(A Ronald G Bolton also travelling in case relevant)

1957 - Laura Norcott Passenger Trans World Airlines embarked London to New York 23.6.1957
(A Lynn D and a Peter Boulton also travelling)

Passenger lists - Same Laura Norcott shows incoming to the Askern Rd address 5/1959 UK passport, last living in Canada, intending to live in England

9/1959 - Laura and Lynn to Canada by boat (full details post above)

?? Laura returning to UK 1960, but can't find the record again

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1938 (>99%)
Bolton George Cooper Doncaster 9c 2212
Cooper Laura M Bolton Doncaster 9c 2212

As well as Lynn D, a Ronald G (Thorne RD) and a Peter Bolton (Don Valley RD) mmn Cooper born

Thanks for your reply. Yes all that information is correct. She married George Bolton before Charles Norcott and had those 3 children.

As for Charles going to New York with Ronald, we don't understand as to why Laura and her other 2 children didn't go at the same time.

It's just so strange that there are no records for Charles after this time?

If I could get in touch with any of Laura's children that would be amazing as they could possibly hold all the answers

In your opening post you answered your own query about Laura not going at the same time as Charles -

"Went to Canada around 1957 to set up home and was supposed to send for Laura"

It was quite common for a husband to emigrate first, find a job and a home, and then for the family to follow later.

As for why there are no records for Charles after that - many such relatively recent records are not online.

A tree on Ancestry claims that he moved to Ontario - Wentworth, and later Haldimand.

Mrs Charles Norcott
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Mrs Charles Norcott
Gender: Female
Residence Date: 1963
Residence Place: Wentworth, Ontario, Canada
Street Address: 2, Glanford Station
Electoral District: Wentworth
Occupation: R.R
Reference Number: M-5102

Also listed at that address:
Charles Norcott, engineer.



Charles Norcott
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Charles Norcott
Residence Date: 1974
Residence Place: Norfolk; Haldimand, Ontario, Canada
Street Address: FL, Hagersville
Electoral District: Norfolk-Haldimand
Occupation: Engineer, R.R
Reference Number: M-6236

With Mrs Dorothy Norcott.

Yes, but Ronald was not Charles' son which is why we were confused.

We are just looking for something to show what happened to him in the end

Ronald would have been 18 in 1957. Maybe he wanted to try his luck in the US or Canada, and Charles offered to take him along. You'll never know for sure.

Doesn't help the present query, but posting in case you don't have this:

Ronald George Bolton
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Ronald George Bolton
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Birth Date: abt 1940
Departure Date: 4 May 1951
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Singapore
Ship Name: Carthage
Shipping Line: P and O
Master: E R Bodley D S C

~Travelling with Laura Marjorie,38; Peter 6, Lynn Dorothy 3.
UK address: Askern Road,Fishlake.


And their return journey:

Ronald G Bolton
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Ronald G Bolton
Arrival Age: 12
Birth Date: abt 1940
Port of Departure: Hong Kong, China
Arrival Date: 21 Jan 1952
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Hong Kong; Singapore; Penang; Colombo; Bombay; Aden; Port Said and Algiers
Ship Name: Corfu
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 162643

Travelling with Laura M, 39; Peter 7; Lynn Dorothy 4.

Going to: Askern Road, Fishlake, near Doncaster, Yorks.
Last permanent residence: Malaya.

Thank you for your help

Nudge

I have sent Laura contact information for the County (Norfolk) Provincial( Ontario ) and Canadian Government websites regarding BMD access and 15 contact telephone numbers for like named ( Norcott) persons in Canada.

The tree on Ancestry which includes Voters' List info for 1974 is Laura's

From OP

I have since been told he met a lady on the boat called Dorothy and married her, never sending for Laura?

In 1957 he FLEW to New York, if it's the same man

The flight record you mention, for our reference:

Charles W Norcott
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Charles W Norcott
Departure Port London, England
Arrival Date 27 May 1957
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Airline Trans World Airlines
Flight Number 96326

Thank you all so much for your help. I don’t know why it won’t let me back into the above account.

I managed to get in touch with a gentleman through ancestry whose wife is related to Charles/Jack down the lines. Unfortunately, her grandmother had passed away and she would have known a lot more. This is the information they gave me:

“Below is the response we got from my wifes aunt in the UK:

I can remember Uncle Jack visiting 256 but I was quite young at the time and eventually emigrating to Canada. He went out first and when organised would send for his wife and children. He never did because on the boat he met a lady called Dorothy and eventually married her!!!!!! Grandma Moore did go and stay with them a couple of times in Canada”

Unfortunately I haven’t heard anything since. I really do appreciate everyone’s replies!

There doesn't seem to be anything for them later than the 1974 Voters' List entry for Charles and Mrs Dorothy Norcott (who may or may not be the right couple) which I posted on 16 March 2021 at 17:49 - and which you have on your Ancestry tree .
Also nothing at all to identify Dorothy.


In Ontario -
Birth records are released to the public after 104 years, marriages after 82 years, and deaths after 72 years. The following dates are open to the public:

Birth registrations: 1869-1917
Marriage registrations: 1801-1941
Death registrations: 1869-1951
Death registrations (overseas): 1939-1947

https://www.vpl.ca/guide/genealogy-and-family-history/ontario-civil-registration

Nudge

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