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Jane Clara Lewis

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beanie

beanie Report 19 Mar 2021 11:35

Jane Clara Lewis was born in 1847 in Claverley, Shropshire. She married David Harvey on 14 November 1869 in Erdington, Birmingham. It would appear that her Father was William Lewis born in Kemberton, Shropshire in 1817.

It would seem that her Mother's name was also Jane (born in Worfield??) but Ancestry suggests that Jane was also a Lewis so I'm struggling to trace them back.

Many thanks.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 19 Mar 2021 11:39

Ancestry trees are very unreliable.

There are trees on all sites where someone has given the mothers married name when they don’t know her maiden name.

You will need to track down Jan’s fathers marriage to see if that is the case or if her mother was actually also a Lewis before she married.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2021 11:42

No second forename for the woman on the marriage cert

Name: David Harvey.........................widower
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1839
Marriage Date: 14 Nov 1869
Marriage Place: Erdington, St Barnabas, Warwickshire, England
Father: Thomas Harvey
Spouse: Jane Lewis
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1842********************************************************
Father: William Lewis..........Occ: Engineer


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2021 11:44

The father of Jane Lewis born c1847 was an Ag Lab.

You seem to have entirely the wrong person

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2021 11:47

For our reference:

Jane Lewis
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Jane Lewis
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Lewis
Mother's Name: Jane Lewis
Gender: Female
Where born: Claverley, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Claverley
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Bridgnorth
Sub-registration District: Chetton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5d
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 50
Piece: 1986
Folio: 513
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lewis 34 - Kemberton
Jane Lewis 31 - Worfield
Mary Ann Lewis 9
Sarah H Lewis 6
Jane Lewis 4
William Lewis 1
Hannah New 27 - visitor, Worfield
Alfred New 6
Mary Ann New 1


Jane Lewis
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Jane Lewis
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: 1847
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Claverley, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Worfield
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Bridgnorth
Sub-registration District: Worfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 69
Piece: 1851
Folio: 99
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Wilson 55
Richd Wilson 25
Edith Wilson 20
James Wilson 19
Fanny Wilson 17
Frances M Beaston 7
Mary Biddle 45
Jane Lewis 14
Thos Cauley 20



LEWIS, JANE mmn MARTIN
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in BRIDGNORTH Volume 18 Page 27


LEWIS, WILLIAM mmn MARTIN
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in BRIDGNORTH Volume 18 Page 33

??
LEWIS, MARY ANN mmn MARTIN
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 335


???
Marriages Jun 1840 (>99%)
LEWIS William Wolverhampton &c 17 283
MARTIN Jane Wolverhampton &c. 17 283


There's no mention of a middle name for Jane junior.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2021 11:58

Ancestry's suggestions are only that - suggestions - and not to be taken as truth without further investigation.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2021 12:19

This is the woman who married David - who may or may not be the same one as above:

Jane Harvey
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Jane Harvey
Gender: Female
Age: 50
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1841
Spouse: David Harvey
Child: Fred C Harvey
William A Harvey
Arthur L Harvey
Birth Place: Claverley, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Residence Place: Aston, Aston, Warwickshire, England [7 Upper Thomas Street ]
Registration District: Aston
Sub registration district: Aston Manor
ED, Institution or Vessel: 47
Neighbors:
Piece: 2435
Folio: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
David Harvey 51
Jane Harvey 50
Fred C Harvey 15
William A Harvey 12
Arthur L Harvey 2


Jane Harvey
in the 1881 England Census
Jane Harvey
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: David Harvey
Gender: Female
Where born: Bunbury, Shropshire, England [ no such place - maybe Broseley ?]
Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: No 7 Laurel Place Upper Thomas St
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration District: Aston
Sub registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors:
Piece: 3044
Folio: 86
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
David Harvey 41
Jane Harvey 36
Elizabeth L. Harvey 10
Alice Harvey 8
Frederick Harvey 5
William Harvey 2


HARVEY, ELIZABETH LEAH mmn LEWIS
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 336

HARVEY, CHARLES FREDERICK mmn LEWIS
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 411

HARVEY, WILLIAM AUSTIN mmn LEWIS
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 423

HARVEY, ARTHUR LEWIS mmn LEWIS
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 351


Arthur L in 1901:

Arthur L Harvey
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Arthur L Harvey
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston Manor
Ecclesiastical parish: Aston by Birmingham St Peter and St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Aston
Sub-registration District: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 56
Neighbors:
Piece: 2888
Folio: 120
Page Number: 5
Household Schedule Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Talboys 29
Charles A Talboys 7
Alfred W Talboys 2
Clara J Harvey 54 - Claverley
William A Harvey 22
Arthur L Harvey 12


YOB of Jane (with later added name Clara) varies from 1841 to 1849 in these three censuses, and her death:

. Clara J Harvey
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Clara J Harvey
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1849
Registration Date: Jul 1917
[Aug 1917]
[Sep 1917]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 467


She's also Clara Jane at Elizabeth's baptism in 1870:

Elizabeth Leah Harvey
in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1919
Name: Elizabeth Leah Harvey
Age: 0
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1870
Baptism Date: 13 Nov 1870
Baptism Place: Aston Brook, St Mary, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Aston Brook, St Mary
Father: David Harvey
Mother: Clara Jane Harvey

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Mar 2021 12:37

Jane
Last name Lewis
Birth year -
Baptism year 1846
Baptism date 27 Dec 1846
Denomination Anglican
Place Claverley
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism
Register date range 1846-1900
Archive reference P68/A/2/2
Page 5

????

Mary Anne
Last name Lewis
Baptism year 1842
Baptism date 03 Apr 1842
Baptism place Pattingham, St Chad
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Jane
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D5823/1/1
Page 17

Sarah Hannah
Last name Lewis
Baptism year 1844
Baptism date 02 Jun 1844
Baptism place Pattingham, St Chad
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Jane
County Staffordshire

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2021 12:51

Maddie has posted the baptism of the Jane in 1851 census above - mmn Martin.


Hannah New , the visitor with the Lewises in 1851, is a sister of the mother Jane:

Hannah's children's births:

NEW, ALFRED mmn MARTIN
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 386


NEW, MARY ANN mmn MARTIN
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 445

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2021 13:04

The only sticking point as to whether or not Jane Lewis (1846) in the 1851 census is the same woman who married David Harvey is her father's occupation.

He's an engineer at her marriage in 1869, but an agricultural labourer in 1851.
Perhaps she exaggerated?

I don't see her father convincingly after 1851.

Possibly his death?

LEWIS, WILLIAM 42
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in BRIDGNORTH Volume 06A Page 481

If he died when she was a child, she probably didn't remember him well..

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Mar 2021 13:20

William
Last name Lewis
Birth year 1816
Death year 1858
Death date ? ? 1858
Age 42
Burial year 1858
Burial date 28 Jan 1858
Burial place Claverley
Denomination Anglican
County Shropshire
Archive refererence P68/A/4/1
Page 160
Register type Burial

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2021 13:37

Possibly also her mother's death ?

LEWIS, JANE 40
GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in BRIDGNORTH Volume 06A Page 395


The children do all seem to be scattered after the 1851 census.

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Mar 2021 13:45

William
Last name Lewis
Birth year -
Baptism year 1850
Baptism date 27 Feb 1850
Denomination Anglican
Place Claverley
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Jane

William
Last name Lewis
Age Full
Marriage year 1871
Marriage date 20 Aug 1871
Marriage place Claverley
Denomination Anglican
Residence Aston
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Lewis
Spouse's first name(s) Eliza
Spouse's last name Knowles
Spouse's residence Aston
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's father's last name Knowles
County Shropshire
Register date range 1837-1900
Archive reference P68/A/3/5
Page 124

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Mar 2021 14:17

William
Last name Lewis
Name note -
Marriage year 1840
Marriage date 31 May 1840
Marriage place Wolverhampton
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Lewis
Spouse's first name(s) Jane
Spouse's last name Martin
Spouse's age -
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Martin
Residence Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
County Staffordshire
Country England

Jane
Last name Martin
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1820
Baptism date 12 Nov 1820
Residence Worfield, Shropshire, England
Place Worfield
County Shropshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Martin
Mother's first name(s) Elisabeth
Mother's last name Martin

William
Last name Lewis
Birth year -
Baptism year 1815
Baptism date 18 Sep 1815
Denomination Anglican
Place Kemberton
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire