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I wonder if he was working in the RN dockyard in Bermuda. OH’s cousins had no idea their father had worked there until we unearthed a photo and tracked him sailing to and from.

Jink posted a 1938 outward travel record, to Bermuda.

Here's his return to 21 Neville Place, Osmondthorpe, Leeds, in 1939:

Mr John Henry Hornby
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name Mr John Henry Hornby
Arrival Age 40
Birth Date abt 1899
Port of Departure West Coast of South America
Arrival Date 3 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage Liverpool; Valparaiso; Antofagasta; Arica; Iquique; Callao; Paita; Salinas; Cristbal; Kingston; Havana; Nassau; Bermuda and La Pallice Offi
Ship Name Orbita
Shipping Line The Pacific Steam Navigation Company
Official Number 137467

His occupation is listed as Foreman Director.
I expect that's a typo for Foreman Erector.

Births Jun 1921
Hornby Mary A Jowett S.Shields 10a 2019
Births Jun 1922
Hornby Florence Jowett S.Shields 10a 1740
Births Jun 1926
Hornby Ronald Jowett Leeds 9b 700
Births Sep 1927
Hornby Gladys Jowett Leeds 9b 494

Right Thank you for all your help I've managed to find out Ronald was Evacuated in 1939
I couldn't find birth that fitted for Joseph so possibly he isn't the right family

Glady's I would have thought she would have been with Ronald ?? so without that marriage certificate I wouldn't know

So as it's a distant relation I think I've got what I needed

Thank you

A Gladys Hornby m William A Thorpe in 1946 in Leeds. Cert will confirm if it’s the right one

Ronald died too recently to be an open record in 1939

Gladys may well be the same………

Thank you for that
now I have to find the other children in 1939

Joseph 1925 not sure about him

Ronald 1926-2000

Gladys 1927

Joseph Hornby 1925 isn’t the same family!

90 DAYS EMERGENCY SERVICE 12 Apr 1921

British Army Service Records
England

First name(s) John Henry
Unit / Battalion 5th Battalion
Last name Hornby
Series WO 363
Birth year -
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Birth town Hebburn
Archive The National Archives
Birth county Durham
Record set British Army Service Records
Birth country England
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Service number 5NF/154
Subcategory First World War
Regiment Northumberland Fusiliers
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

Married to Annie Jowett 3 Apr 1920, daughter Mary Annie b 20 Feb 1921


So this would also be him in 1921.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Town Hall, Wallsend, Northumberland, England

First name(s) John Henry
Name of ship or barracks Castille Power Station Guard
Last name Hornby
Type of ship or barracks Military Guard
Sex Male
Location of ship or barracks A Company, 5th Battalion, Northumberland Fusiliers, Carville Power Station Guard, Wallsend on Tyne
Birth year 1898
Parish Wallsend
Census date 19 June 1921
Registration district Tynemouth
Age in years 23
Registration district number 559
Age in months 3
Sub-district Wallsend
Age as transcribed 23 y 3 m
Sub-district number 1
Marital status Married
Enumeration district number 20
Birth place Hebburn, Durham, England
County Northumberland
Birth town Hebburn
Country England
Birth county Durham
Ward of borough or urban district Hadrian
Birth country England
Parliamentary borough or division Wallsend PB
Birth place as transcribed Hebburn, Co Durham
Archive The National Archives
Occupation code 813
Archive series RG 15
Occupation code with suffix 813/6
Piece number 25440
Employer code 701
District reference RD 559 RS 1 ED 20
Rank or rating Sergeant
Schedule type code NM
Branch of service Army
Schedule type Armed Forces, multiple page, 70+ entries
Service and branch or arm of service Army Infantry
Other household member's first name(s) -
Number of minor dependants 1
Other household member's last name -
Language used to complete form English
Record set 1921 Census Of England & Wales
Person making return Stoker
Category Census, land & surveys
House name Town Hall
Subcategory Census
Address Town Hall
Collections from Great Britain, England
Full address as transcribed Town Hall, Wallsend

If you use FMP , do an ADDRESS search

ErikaH

Just heard from the relative John Henry Hornby 1898
John Henry Died 13 June 1953 Bolton his address 21 Neville Place he was killed in an accident in a Gasometer when it was being constructed and his occupation was down as a Foreman Steel Erector. I've looked at both 1939 for john But can't find the one for his wife and daughter

1921 Census Of England & Wales
21, Edward Street, Hebburn, Durham, England

Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
John Henry Hornby Head
Male 1898 23 Hebburn, Durham, England Ship Rivetter Leslies Shipbuilding Co Ltd Hebburn-On-Tyne
Annie Hornby Wife
Female 1900 20 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Household Duties -
Mary Annie Hornby Daughter
Female 1921 - Hebburn, Durham, England - -


1939 Register
1 Porter Street, Scunthorpe, Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

First name(s) John H
Country England
Last name(s) Hornby
E. D. letter code TMML
Birth date 30 Mar 1898
Schedule 40
Birth day 30
Schedule sub number 3
Birth month 3
Archive reference RG101/6447B/005/20
Birth year 1898
Piece number 6447B
Sex Male
Item number 5
Marital status Married
Line number 20
Occupation Rivetter
Special interest groups Heavy Worker
Address 1 Porter Street, Scunthorpe
Record set 1939 Register
Place Scunthorpe M.B.
Category Census, land & surveys
Borough / district Scunthorpe M.B.
Subcategory Census
County Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey)
Collections from Great Britain, England, Wales
County Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey)

2 closed records after him.

1939 Register
21 Neville Place, Leeds, Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Annie Hodson (Hornby) 13 Nov 1900 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 256 1
Annie (Mary) Hornby 20 Feb 1921 Female Tailors Trousers Hand Single 256 2

As Canada was mentioned, it seems only fair to include some others

Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960


First name(s) John Hy
Last name Hornby
Destination place - country BERMUDA ******
Destination country Bermuda
Sex Male
Ship's name Orduna
Birth year 1898
Ship's official number 135539
Age 40
Ship's registered tonnage 15507
Age as transcribed 40
Ship's master's first name(s) H B
Occupation Engineer
Ship's master's last name Reece
Departure day 2
Shipping line The Pacific Steam Navigation Co
Departure month 11
Number of passengers 185
Departure year 1938
Ship's departure port LIVERPOOL
Departure port Liverpool
Departure country England
Ship's destination port Valparaiso
Ship's destination country Chile
Entry struck out N
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Destination port Bermuda
Category Travel & migration
Destination Bermuda
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Country Bermuda
Collections from Great Britain, England

EDIT Last UK Address given on Passenger list : 21 Neville Place, Leeds

Date of Sailing 26 Nov 1938

Get birth cert for exact DoB

If you look at the 1939 results, you will see that there are TWO. Look at BOTH

ALSO - when he went to Canada in 1940, he was NOT an engineer - he was Foreman Erector!!!

He was never in the Navy as far as can be seen

ships rivetter 1939 engineer 1938 and 1941 could have changed his job and changed it back again

Why is ships rivetter to engineer too big a leap?

Added re the crossing out - he could have been recorded at a different address. Could he have a,ready signed up for the navy - if so he wouldn’t be registered at home.

Yes I've seen that Erika but didn't think it was him and couldn't make out why it was crossed out, writing over it says to look at another page but didn't understand it as I couldn't make it out properly

Sorry about Hebburn yes it is Durham
Not sure I've got the right family ??

ErikaH I havent seen the 1921 census

I'm trying to verify the info I've got as I've just been contacted by a relative of John Henry Hornby who is closer than I am to him but he is only just starting
The probate I have for him is at 21 Neville Place same address as the passenger lists but he is an engineer? 1938 and 1941 But ErikaH has him as a ships rivetter

I've got his birth and Parents right

In Scunthorpe in 1939 under John h Hornby

DoB 30 March 1898