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I am currently tring to reasearch the PEARMAN side of my family specifically Charles Sidney Pearman b 1882 married to a Florence Dodgson b 1886 in Thirsk 1909 I have had 2 different people contact me about Charles sidney both saying he was born in Acton but married to different people, i have the marriage cetificate for these two but it doesnt say where charles sidney was born? any help on this??

Are you basing d.o.b 1882 from marriage cert? What is the name of father on m/cert Have you managed to find anything on census

The name of the father is charles fred pearman, ive not been able to find any info on the cencus for the pearman side because not knowing the actual birthplace is difficult i have found a family of pearmans based in Acton Middlesex but not sure if i am on the right line.

Mary-Lou I cant see a birth for Charles Sidney Pearman around 1882, could he have changed his name's around? Births Dec 1883 (>99%) PEARMAN Sydney Charles Brentford 3a 111 Brentford registration district covers Acton. Georgina.

Mary-Lou can you give us all the details from the 1909 marriage certificate, How old was charles & what was his occupation? What was his fathers occupation? What were the names of the witnesses? Georgina.

Looks like that one's dad is Alfred :-(( Sidney C Pearman Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's name: Alfred Mother's name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Acton, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Acton Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban Town: Acton County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Angela

There is also this marriage... Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%) Harrison Harriett Hill Brentford 3a 144 Haseman Arthur William Brentford 3a 144 PEARMAN Charles Sydney Brentford 3a 144 WOODBRIDGE Emma Louisa Brentford 3a 144 WOOLRIDGE Emma Louisa Brentford 3a 144 Georgina.

thats what i did, changed the names around and i got that same information and i got the fathers name as alfred? fred is short for alfred i think - i managed to locate that whole family but the contact i have said that particular sidney did not marry a florence dodgson and another one said he did but they both have the same family member but one has sidney as married twice and the other one was married only once and died with the same wife- so its easy to get confused, sorry i if dont make much sense, its hard to type so little when you want to say so much! lol

As Georgina has said, more info from the marriage cert would be helpful Mary-Lou. Witnesses names, father's occupation? Angela

the info on the marriage cert jan 11 1909 thirsk county of york charles sidney pearman - prof - brick layer florence dodgson fathers charles fred pearman prof- gardner william dodgson prof- brewer witnesess william dodgson and charles waddington

The trouble is Alfred Pearman was Alfred Pearman (not short for anything) this looks like his marriage going on the 1891 census Angela posted... Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%) PEARMAN Alfred Winchester 2c 201 Sanders Mary Ann Winchester 2c 201 Shawyer William Winchester 2c 201 Smith Ellen Winchester 2c 201 Georgina.

I can't actually find a Charles Pearman with father Charles at all.

where should i go from here? i am completley stuck

Ok this is probably a longshot but on the 1891 census there is a Charles Pearman born 1882 in the workhouse with his siblings... 1891 census... Name: Charles Pearman Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation: Pauper Gender: Male Where born: Ashdon, Essex, England Civil parish: Saffron Walden Ecclesiastical parish: Saffron Walden County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Saffron Walden Sub-registration district: Saffron Waldon ED, institution, or vessel: Saffron Walden Union Workhouse Alice Pearman 11 Charles Pearman 9 Joseph Pearman 4 Thirza Pearman 6 I have traced Alice Pearman back to the 1881 census and her father is Charles who is an Ag Labourer.. 1881 census... Name: Alice Pearman Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Charles Mother's name: Susannah Gender: Female Where born: Ashdon, Essex, England Civil parish: Ashdon County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Roger End Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Saffron Walden Sub-registration district: Radwinter ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Pearman 1 Charles Pearman 25 Susannah Pearman 21 I did say it was a longshot? Georgina.

This is the above parents marriage... Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%) COWELL Elijah Saffron W. 4a 791 Marsh Susannah Saffron W. 4a 791 PEARMAN Charles Saffron W. 4a 791 Wilson Sarah Saffron Walden 4a 791 Georgina.

thanks chaps for trying to help!

Sorry, had to leave pc. Yes I'd just found that Georgina - that Charles was an ag lab, similar to gardener, I think. Angela

Angela can you read that Charles Pearman's occupation on the 1901 census, I cant make it out. Georgina.

It looks like the youngest of the children Thurza was in Yorkshire by 1901... Name: Thurza Pearman Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Waldon, Essex, England Civil parish: Sculcoates Ecclesiastical parish: Newland St Augustine County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Sculcoates Sub-registration district: Cottingham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 92 Household Members: Name Age James Chapman 44 James Chapman 4 Maud Chapman 45 Thurza Pearman 18 Georgina.

Death of mother - explaining why children in workhouse? Deaths Dec 1890 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pearman Susannah Clara 30 Billericay 4a 255