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Oh that great Vera I,m sure thats her ..........well I hope it seem sence she isnt with mum in that year and she was born around that time ....so William George Pogson could have died around 1884 ..just after Kate Janes birth

Hi Sharleen, As I said before these ancestors of ours...certainly don't help us !!! Sorry I couldn't find George. Best of luck with your research Regards Vera

Hi Sharleen, William could have died....but on the 1891 census Catherine states she is married and by 1901 she is a widow. Regards V

Thanks so much for your time .....but as you said earlier ....this bl**dy family has driven me mad ......kate didnt marry her hubby ...but married someone else ............Mad lot. Thanks again

There is this Edith Pogson on the 1891 but born in Wales, Edith Pogson Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Niece Where born: Wales Civil parish: St George Hanover Square Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel Fenchurch Town: London Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub-registration district: Belgrave Elizabeth Hughes 75 Widowed Visitor Emma Jenkins 21 Servant Gwen Jones 36? Widowed Head Edith Pogson 10 Neice RG12; Piece: 74; Folio 173; Page 22; GSU roll: 6095184. Then the 1881 Catherine Jones Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Where born: Mallwyd, Merionethshire, Wales Civil parish: St George Hannover Square County/Island: London Street address: 140 Buckingham Palace Rd Occupation: L H Housekeeper Registration district: St George Hanover Square Elizabeth Hughes 71 Catherine Jones 36 Gwen Jones 26 Howard M. Lloyd 27 James W. Shanach 48 RG11; Piece: 108; Folio: 65; Page: 25; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341025. Gail.

Thanks Gail...its all falling in to place now ...........I,m still looking for her hubby William George Pogson ...but at least I,ve got another step nearer...as it narrows down the years I need to search Thanks again Gail

Can you please remove your thread on Tips board to stop people doubling up on searches.

So was Edith born out of wedlock?? she was born 1881 and her sister 1884!?

Here is the marriage with william mistranscribed >>>>>Catherine Jones 1883 Jul-Aug-Sep St George Hanover Square London, Middlesex Olivia Blaney Mills 1883 Jul-Aug-Sep St George Hanover Square London, Middlesex >>>>>William Pogsom 1883 Jul-Aug-Sep St George Hanover Square London, Middlesex Frederick Thomas Tarry 1883 Jul-Aug-Sep St George Hanover Square So Edith could well have been registered as Edith Jones

Thats brill Andrea ....Again you peeps have come up with the stuff I,m so pleased and a big Thank you to you all. sorry about confusion... Thats the bit I love it gives me such a buzz.....am I the only one ..

how strange is this .i used to work with someone with the name pogson some 40 years ago .they lived in cleethorpes lics .

hi kem ,how nice vera is helping you .she gave me such a lot of help a while ago .