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Wanda I wasn't trying to put people off helping you, it was just that the information seemed familiar and now I know why! Thankyou for explaining that you are having a second go at it - no problems with that. OC

As I know it takes time to look for info will sign out now and its late at night.Please dont be put off by OC`s reply..I am not one who doesnt take notice of advice given.I sent for the cert that OC suggested and unfortunately it isnt the one.I just want this to be a fresh search so I can eliminate the could be`s....Fresh eyes is what is needed as this is a brick wall now with concrete reinforcement! Will be back tmoz and nudge this back up.Thanks for looking.Wanda.x

Yes OC it is and thats why I am back and desperate.Sent for the birth you gave me and that isnt the one..That is why I dont want to put on here what I have as it could throw people off..I want it to be a look without me giving info that may not be valid..Hope you understand. Wanda x

this all sounds very familiar.....? OC

Thanks Reg..that is exactly what I have found....Dont want to be cheeky but if that is him can you see him in 1891? Thanks Sue but sent for that cert and that is not her.. Please keep helping so I can eliminate the bits I have found as I think I will go off my head with this one...... Yes Margaret that is what I found..Thank you

How about Golden spelled this way? 1901 census 1 Tebbuts Row, S. Manchester. Lancashire John Golden, head, widower, 42, sand hawker, born Manchester Sarah A., dau, 14, born Manchester Mary Ellen, dau, 8, born Manchester Mary Quinn, boarder, widow, 49, charwoman, born Ireland Honorah Quinn, dau, 18, charwoman, born Manchester

Same chap on Ancestry.......... Name: John Golden Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish: South Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock ED, institution, or vessel: 52 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 103 Household Members: Name Age John Golden 42 Mary Ellen Golden 8 Sarah A Golden 14 Honorah Quinn 18 Mary Quinn 49 Reg

Using name + Hawker on official site.......... John Golden 42 Lanc Mchr Manchester Lancashire South Manchester Sand Hawker Reg

Will someone please help me on this..Have tried so many times.Just spend each night trawling through hoping to find something.I may have set myself off the wrong way and thats the prob and if I pass it to you then I wont get anywhere.... I have the marraige cert for Mary Ellen Goulden marrying Thomas Mitchell 21/03/1914 at St augustines roman catholic church Chorlton,Manchester.She is age 21 and he is 22.Her father is John Goulden a hawker.The witness`s are Joseph Sheen and Frances J McDonall. I have the birth cert for William Goulden born 23/04/1911..mother Mary Ellen Goulden of 38 Bridge St Chorlton South Manchester. Can someone please help me find her birth and any info on census for family.Not much to go on but really need help on this.Thank you Wanda.x 1891 census help now needed.

Hi, This might be her birth reg ame: Mary Ellen Goulden Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun DISTRICT: Leigh County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 317 (click to see others on page)