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So, is Josiah/Jonah Barley/Bailey/Bailey , Elizabeth Goldsmith nee Sayers stepfather??

Found it under Jonah!! 1891: Name: Jonah Barley Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Wootton, Kent, England Civil parish: Buckland Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews Town: Dover County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 171 Union Rd Occupation: general labourer Registration district: Dover Sub-registration district: Hougham Household Members: Name Age Jonah Barley 48 Mary A Barley 37 Elizabeth Barley 13 Emma Barley 12 Edith E Barley 7 Richard Barley 6 Definitely Bailey as surname for Josiah & Mary A, definitely Sayer for kids.

I saw 1881 & wondered if he might be away in 1891. Can't find these Sayers though. Ozi. Update: I think it's supposition, but I can't find these Valentines either to confirm. Marriages Sep 1885 BAILEY Josiah Dover 2a 1462 PAY Mary Eliza Dover 2a 1462 Sayer Annie Dover 2a 1462 VALENTINE Alfred George Dover 2a 1462

I was working my way up to it, because like you, i couldnt get back to it from 1901. Do we know he deffo married Annie- or is that supposition? I saw that Johan - he's far too young, isn't he

Scarlet have you had any luck with 1891? Ozi.

Josiah in 1881 Name: Josiah Baily Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil parish: Vessels County/Island: Royal Navy Country: England Street address: 'euphrates' Education: Occupation: Private Registration district: Royal Navy Sub-registration district: Royal Navy ED, institution, or vessel: Eupliates --------------------------------------------------- 1883 he marries Name: Josiah Bailey Year of Registration: 1885 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep DISTRICT: Dover County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 1462 Mary Eliza Pay / Annie Sayer

john goldmith married Elizabeth Sayer John Goldsmith 1896 Apr-May-Jun Dover Kent Elizabeth Sayer 1896 Apr-May-Jun Dover Kent

Are these the Baileys you have the marriage for? 1891: Name: John W Bailey Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Dover, Kent, England Civil parish: Offham Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Village County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: School house Occupation: schoolmaster Registration district: Malling Sub-registration district: Wrotham ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John W Bailey 25 Annie Bailey 25 - b. Kingsdown, Dover Annie G I Bailey 2 - b. Little Brashill, Bucks Ellen Greinlin 16 - servant

I'm having difficulty with 1891. Exactly how are Josiah's names spelt? Ozi.

Is this who you mean? 1901: Name: Josiah Bayly Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Father-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Woolton, Kent, England Civil parish: Dover Ecclesiastical parish: Buckland St Andrews Town: Dover County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Dover Sub-registration district: St Mary Household Members: Name Age John Goldsmith 33 Elizabeth Goldsmith 24 John Goldsmith 4 James Goldsmith 11 months Josiah Bayly 50

I am wondering if anybody can help me. I have a Josiah Bailey b1850 Dover m Annie Sayer in 1885 Dover. I already have a census for 1891/1901 in the name of Johan Barley and Mary Ann and I can't seem to work it out.On 1891 Ages differ (which is not unusual) wifes name is different too plus children Elizabeth 13 Emma 12 Edith 7 and Richard 6 look like they have the surname Sayer. Checked births and that is the correct surname. I am just wondering if she could have been married before as on 1901 Census it is definetly Josiah Bayly (which looks correct) but has him living with Elizabeth who is married now to John Goldsmith and their two children. Trouble is I am not sure which name to look under for marriages. I was wondering if anybody can check this out for me, I have tried a few things but not I'm afraid been very successful. I would like to know for sure if I have the right Josiah. Would appreciate any help that I can get. Julia.