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Canadian Ancestry-Answered...Rose?

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Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 6 May 2007 10:50

Rose, in case you are about...thought you might be interested. I haven't triple-checked yet but it looks like this is about Rebecca Stuart-Curzon's mother-in-law: 'Born outside of Birmingham in 1833, into the provincial English middle-class, Curzon was the daughter of George Philips Vincent, a glass manufacturer...In 1858 she married Norfolk-born Robert Curzon and sometime between 1862 and 1864, immigrated with her husband and first born son Robert Jr., to Toronto...With a still reasonably young family of three sons and a daughter, continually moving from one rented dwelling to the next – her husband was a bookkeeper, a coffee and pickle manufacturer, and starting with 1877 a clerk/treasurer in the City Hall...' In addition to this article, she is also mentioned in a book which includes her photograph. Although she is not related to me, it is still fascinating reading.

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 5 May 2007 05:29

Thank you very much, Rose. I appreciate all that you have done. I'm looking forward to continuing my search of Ontario websites and if I don't find anything, I still have all of the information you found. Best of luck with your own searches.

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There are lots of deaths so I limited myself to looking for ones in York county. Nothing for Sarah but there's might be James: Name: James Stewart Death Date: 16 May 1878 Death Location: York Gender: Male Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Birth Location: Ireland Co. Sligo The index starts are 1869 so they could have died before that. Depending on the year, sometimes and informant and a place of birth is listed. Sometimes the info. is very sparse. Rose

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 5 May 2007 00:49

Thank you Rose. At least it's better than just some place in Ireland, eh? I may have missed it, but I didn't notice anything for James or Sarah's death. If I might trouble you again, may I ask if you can search for their deaths, when you are free again? Thank you for all of your help!

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Hi Lisa, Sorry, I don't know if it's the county or the town. Looking at other deaths it really depends. Rose

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 4 May 2007 09:23

Rose, for Sarah's death certificate it states her parents were born in Sligo, Ireland. I'm wondering if it might be the town or county of Sligo? Would you know please if the Ontario deaths listed general areas, or exact towns? Also, apparently, Dora WAS known as Emma/Emily. I remembered this from the IGI: Father: William Richard Mumford Mother: Emily Stuart Child: Emily Voss Mumford Birth: 24 JUN 1889 Toronto, York, Ontario

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 4 May 2007 07:29

Rose, I've spent the evening trying to find information, checking Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid, Ontario Marriages, Canadian Government Archives, etc. (No luck so far.) Thank you so much for your continued help. :) I actually did see the Curzon's in 1901 and things are starting to fall into place. I remember my aunt mentioning the Curzon's as 'cousins', with hesitation. Perhaps they were regarded as cousins, as they were Dora's nieces. My aunt's aunts and uncles were Annie Caroline, Ethel Stuart, Emily Vaus (died around age 2), Fred Eric(?), James Stuart and William Richard Vaus. The family had a very strict tradition of naming children after relatives. We don't have any Eric's, that I can find. Perhaps Fred Eric was named after someone on the Curzon side. Lastly, all three of Dora's sons named their sons James: James Ernest, James E. and James Stuart. Either James Ernest was a popular name back then, or they were named after someone. Thank you so much for all you have done. I can't tell you how thrilled I am.

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Record Name Birth Date Gender Birth County Father's name Mother's name Frederick Arthur Curzon 7 Dec 1883 Male York Robert Thomas Curzon Rebecca Stewart James Ernest Curzon 16 Mar 1886 Male York Robert Thomas Curzon Rebecca Stewart Norman Vincent Curzon 21 Nov 1891 Male York Robert Thomas Curzon Rebecca Stuart William Richard Curzon 16 Mar 1886 Male York Robert Thomas Curzon Rebecca Stewart Rose

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Curzons in 1901 Name: Rebecca Curzon Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Age: 38 Birth Date: 7 Dec 1862 Birthplace: Ontario Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's name: Robert T Racial or Tribal Origin: English Nationality: Canadian Religion: Church of England Province: Ontario DISTRICT: York (West/Ouest) District Number: 131 Sub-District: Toronto (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 5 Sub-District Number: F-2 Family Number: 78 Page: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert T Curzon 40 Rebecca Curzon 38 Robert S Curzon 19 Frederick R Curzon 16 William R Curzon 15 James E Curzon 15 Perapel E Curzon 12 Norman V Curzon 8 Rose

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This could be another sister: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1922 about Elizabeth Stewart Name: Elizabeth Stewart Birth Place: Canada Age: 24 Father Name: James Stewart Mother Name: Sarah Stewart Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Spouse Name: Walter Scott Craik Spouse's Age: 30 Spouse Birth Place: Canada Spouse Father Name: Robert Craik Spouse Mother Name : Jane Craik Marriage Date: 30 Sep 1880 Marriage Place: York Marriage County: York Witnesses are Emma Stewart and Sarah Fowlie. Rose

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No problem Lisa. Hope you get the time to read it all later. I need to go out now but will be back in a bit. Take care, Rose

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 4 May 2007 02:23

Rose: I've never heard of Rebecca before. When I read your first posting I was hesitating about accepting that you had found the right family. But, guess what? Brampton rings a bell. I don't know why - but it's connected to the family somehow. Also, when I used to pester my aunt about the Mumford's, she mentioned a few times that a family member had married a Curzon! Rose, as I've mentioned on GR before, I've been researching on and off since I was in college - almost THIRTY years ago! Thirty years, and now you've found them. Unfortunately, I've spent the past 30 minutes running back and forth - trying to cook supper (quite difficult cooking when you can't see the stove through the tears of joy) and read your postings. And, we have a school meeting to attend in a few minutes. I can't wait until I get home to actually sit down and read everything, word-for-word. My dad passed away 2 1/2 years ago. I wish he was here so I could tell him (he used to help me research). I'm sure he knows now though, eh? My dad's sister is still alive and I can't wait to tell her. Thank you so much for everything, Rose. Even if I had Ancestry, I never would have looked for 'Emma'. As they say in the UK, 'you're a star'.

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Still don't see them in 1851. Ann and Sarah should both be there. Rose

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 4 May 2007 01:57

Rose - I'm still here. I'll write in a few minutes. Sending you the hugest hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ann's marriage: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1922 about James Field Name: James Field Birth Place: England Age: 32 Father Name: John Field Mother Name: Susan Field Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Spouse Name: Ann Stewart Spouse's Age: 30 Spouse Birth Place: Canada Spouse Father Name: James Stewart Spouse Mother Name : Sarah Stewart Marriage Date: 22 Jul 1874 Marriage Place: York Marriage County: York Rose

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Perhaps this is the Charles Field in 1881: Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 about William Charles Field Name: William Charles Field Date of Birth: 28 May 1875 Gender: Male Birth County: York Father's name: James Field Mother's name: Ann Stewart Roll Number: MS929_22 Rose

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Sarah's death: Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 about Sarah Stuart Name: Sarah Stuart Death Date: 5 Feb 1923 Death Location: York Gender: Female Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Birth Location: Brampton,Ont Parents listed a Sarah and James from Sligo, Ireland. Rose

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Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 about Rebecca Curzon Name: Rebecca Curzon Death Date: 18 Jan 1930 Death Location: York Gender: Female Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Birth Location: Lambton Mills,Ont Rose

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Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1932 about Rebecca Curzon Name: Rebecca Curzon Death Date: 18 Jan 1930 Death Location: York Gender: Female Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Birth Location: Lambton Mills,Ont Rose

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Has to be them: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1922 about Rebecca Stuart Name: Rebecca Stuart Birth Place: Brampton Ont Age: 19 Father Name: James Stuart Mother Name: Sarah Stuart Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Spouse Name: Robert Thomas Curzon Spouse's Age: 21 Spouse Birth Place: Coventry England Spouse Father Name: Robert Curzon Spouse Mother Name : Sarah Anne Curzon Marriage Date: 23 May 1881 Marriage Place: York Marriage County: York Source: Indexed by: Ancestry.com Rose