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Glad to help........... Reg

thankyou very much reg, ive been at work for the past few days, you are an absolute star! thanx again! mary-lou

O C It was cocoa..............very mundane! Reg

Blimey Reggie, what are you on!? Can I have a drop of it please? OC

Oliver's death......... Name: Oliver Cuckoo Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Year of Registration: 1884 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 34 District: Faversham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 520 1861 census.......... Name: Oliver Cuckow Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Margrann Gender: Male Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England Civil parish: Faversham Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury Town: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 62 Household Members: Name Age Alfred H Cuckow 1 Mo Edwin M Cuckow 7 Ellen L Cuckow 5 Margrann Cuckow 37 Oliver Cuckow 11 Walter C Cuckow 3 William Cuckow 34 William J Cuckow 13 Amelia Henry 22 AND 1851.......... Name: Oliver Cucker Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England Civil parish: Gravesend County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Gravesend Sub-registration district: Gravesend ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Dinah Cucker 17 Mary Cucker 28 Oliver Cucker 1 William Cucker 3 Alfred Rayner 10 Rebecca Rayner 45 Stephen Rayner 56 Rebecca Waldon 23 Reg

William in 1881 Name: William Cuckoo Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's name: Oliver Mother's name: Sarah Ann Gender: Male Where born: Faversham, Kent, England Civil parish: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 24 St Johns Rd Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Cuckoo 4 Oliver Cuckoo 31 b. Gravesend Sarah Ann Cuckoo 31 b. Strood William Cuckoo 5 AND 1891 Name: William Cuckoo Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation: Son Mother's name: Sarah Ann Gender: Male Where born: Faversham, Kent, England Civil parish: Faversham Ecclesiastical parish: Faversham Town: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Cuckoo 14 Ethel Cuckoo 9 Sarah Ann Cuckoo 41 William Cuckoo 16 James H Hayhow 21 Brother Oliver in 1871.........with future in-laws, it appears Name: Oliver Cuckoo Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England Civil parish: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 211 Household Members: Name Age Oliver Cuckoo 21 Esther W Haghow 12 James W Haghow 8 John Haghow 15 Mary A Haghow 10 Sarah Haghow 48 Thomas W Haghow 23 W Recha Williams 17 Marriage......... Oliver Cuckoo 1874 Jul-Aug-Sep Faversham Kent Sarah Ann Hayhow 1874 Jul-Aug-Sep Faversham Kent Volume: 2a Page: 1099 Reg

Guessing now.............possible child for Lilian Name: Frederick Oliver Cuckoo Year of Registration: 1901 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Faversham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 917 Reg

1901...so we know which William Lilian married Name: Lilian K Cuckoo Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William J O Gender: Female Where born: Faversham, Kent, England Civil parish: Faversham Within Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary of Charity Town: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 162 Household Members: Name Age Lilian K Cuckoo 25 William J O Cuckoo 25 Reg And his birth........ Name: William James O Cuckoo Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Faversham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 757

Bertie's birth Name: Bertie Thomas Adams Year of Registration: 1878 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Faversham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 799 Reg

1901........ Name: Mary A Dence Age: 71 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Faversham, Kent, England Civil parish: Faversham Within Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary of Charity Town: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 194 Reg

Henry's death Name: Henry Lewis Dence Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 60 District: Faversham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 449 And Mary's Name: Mary Ann Dence Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Year of Registration: 1901 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 72 District: Faversham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 573 Reg

I think the 1891 census ties things together for you................. Name: Mary Ann Dence Age: 62 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Widow Gender: Female Where born: Throwley, Kent, England Civil parish: Faversham Ecclesiastical parish: Faversham Town: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Bertie Thomas Adams 13 Lillian Kate Adams 15 Ellen Henrietta Baker 47 Lodger Mary Ann Dence 62 Mary Ann Adams 35 Dau.......Married Chas James Munn 27 b. Stoke Newington (Boarder) Sarah Wachers 68 Lodger So Mary married the Boarder!!!! Or not, as the case may be!! Reg

thanks for your help you have been fab! must go to bed now, i have about a thousand names buzzing around my head!! thanx once again for your help mary-lou

Their daughter's birth reg'n................. Name: Dorothy Frances M Nunn Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Hackney County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 452 Reg

You can only be sure if you have documents to back it up............the marriage cert for Charles and Mary is a 'must'............... If the details of Mary's father's name and occupation tally with the census info, you're on a winner...........if not, search again............. Reg

i looked at those too, how do you know for sure its the right family?, i have done that before when i first started my tree, i completely went wrong because i put the wrong family, it had the same name , same date, same villiage, turns out it was a different extention of the family. so how can you tell if it is the correct one? is it just a gamble sometimes?

Same family in 1881............ Name: Mary A. Dence Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Henry L. Gender: Female Where born: Throwley, Kent, England Civil parish: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: (2 Abbey St) Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Bertie T. Adams 3 Lilian K. Adams 5 Mary A. Adams 26 Married.....Dressmaker Henry L. Dence 51 Mary A. Dence 51 Birth reg'n............ Name: Lilian Kate Adams Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Faversham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 753 And marriage........ Name: Lilian Kate Adams Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Faversham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 1891 William James O Cuckoo OR William Jackson Foreman Reg

This may be Mary in 1871............ Name: Mary Ann Dence Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Henry Lewis Mother's name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Marylebone, London, England Civil parish: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Henry Lewis Dence 41 b. Dunkirk, Kent Mary Ann Dence 41 b. Throwley, Kent Mary Ann Dence 16 James Sparks 14 Reg

The most helpful info would be the marriage cert,which would tell you the names and occupations of both fathers, enabling you to find them on earlier censuses.......... Reg

thanx