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Help needed to find these children's parents and

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Dan

Dan Report 31 Jan 2007 23:33

FANTASTIC! Yes that is definetly them. In the 1891 it is Jeremiah that is with his grandparents so that fits perfectly as does the 1901 where Mary Ann is with her Aunt and Uncle. Thank you SO much. Danielle

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 15:19

here he is in 1871, the enumerator has put him as daughter. But I am pretty sure it is him, as I dont think a woman would be a agr labourer lol, not in those days anyway Name: Florence McCarthy Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Jeremiah Mother's name: Johanna Gender: Female Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England Civil parish: Woolwich St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Woolwich County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Woolwich Sub-registration district: Woolwich Arsenal ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 205 Household Members: Name Age Bridget McCarthy 8 Catherine McCarthy 17 Dennis McCarthy 10 Florence McCarthy 18 Jeremiah McCarthy 45 Johanna McCarthy 45 Michael McCarthy 12 Norah McCarthy 22

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 12:20

hmmm no luck finding them in 1881, I have however found a Florance McCarthy of similar age Married but on his own as a Patient at cleveland Street Asylum. Occupation a general labourer. Everything matches up except his place of birth which is given as Ireland. Will see if I can find Catherine on her own, which will rule out if this is him or not.

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 12:03

Got them now in 1901 Florance McCarthy age 46 Bricklayers Labourer born Woolwich Catherine McCarthy age 41 born City Road, London Jerry (most likely Jeremiah) age 21 (cant work out occupation) looks like lift man born Holborn Kate McCarthy age 16 Ticket Writer born Woolwich Florance McCarthy age 14 Van Boy born Woolwich Mike McCarthy age 7 born Holborn Ella McCarthy age 4 born Holborn address 16 Southfield Buildings, Finsbury Still trying to find them in 1881, it took a bit of variation searching to find them in 1891 and 1901

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 11:49

Hiya, Think I might have them this time in 1891 Florance McCarthy age 38 General Labour born Woolwich Kent Catherine McCarthy age 32 born London James McCarthy age 9 Scholar born (looks like Graylow, Surrey) Caroline McCarthy age 6 Scholar born Woolwich Kent Florance McCarthy age 4 born Woolwich Kent Mary Ann McCarthy age 1 born Woolwich Kent Address is 1 Catherine Square, in Woolwich. I know you said Mary Ann was with her grandparents in 1891, but it could just be that the parents gave her as well, as I have had this happen in some census's where a child turns up at two place in the census. will see if i can locate them in the 1881 now. This definatly looks like them. regards, SIobhan

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 11:27

Hiya, yeah there does seem to be alot of Florance McCarthy's and looking at it also alot of Jeremiahs. Possibly all related somehow or another. If you can get Florance's fathers name and occupation, that would help us find florance in an earlier census nad therefore give us an idea of his age and place of birth.

Dan

Dan Report 31 Jan 2007 11:23

Argh!! More of them. I cant get over how many men were called Florence, I would have thought one was enough! I dont think I will know for sure which of these families is mine until I get Florance's fathers name. Cant thank you enough though!

Dan

Dan Report 31 Jan 2007 11:20

Ok just had another look at my notes from my cousin and I have that there may have also been a son Florance McCarthy born about 1897 and sister Catherine born about 1895. I havent been able to verify this though. I have already taken up enough of your time though and thank you for all your interest in this. Danielle

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 11:19

there is this family in 1881 Name: Catherine Mc Carthy Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Florence Gender: Female Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Battersea County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 73 Gonsalva Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Battersea ED, institution, or vessel: 81 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry H. Banbury 18 Catherine Mc Carthy 35 Catherine Mc Carthy 4 Florence Mc Carthy 48 Timothy F. Mc Carthy 8 Herbert E. Towne 16

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 11:09

Hi Dan, if you can get that information, especially florances occupation it might help with locating them in the census. I have found a Jeremiah in the 1881 census, right age and place of birth but wrong parents, his parents are John and Ellen McCarthy.

Dan

Dan Report 31 Jan 2007 11:07

Hi Siobhan Sorry i dont have Florance's fathers name nor his occupation, - of all the info I thougth worth copying I only took down the witnesses names!! I will have to email my cousin in the UK to get these details. I have that Jeremiah was born January 1879 at 1 Fulwood Rents Saint Andrews Holborn - again this provided by my cousin. On FreeBMD he is shown as Mar Qtr 1879 Jeremiah McCarthy - Holborn. Thanks so much for looking. Danielle (Australia)

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 11:00

What was Florance's occupation on his childrens birth certificates. Also can u confirm his Father's name and occupation from his marriage certificate

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 10:57

if this is your Jeremiah John McCarthys birth, that looks like it is definately the right family, because of the district his birth was registered in View Record Jeremiah John McCarthy 1877 Oct-Nov-Dec St Olave Southwark (1837-1901)

Dan

Dan Report 31 Jan 2007 10:55

Uh OH! Just found a Florance McCarthy married a Catherine DRISCOLL in 1877 in St Olave, so I think this is your 1881 and 1891 couple. Florance is more common a name than i thought!

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 10:50

think this is the same ones from 1881 in 1891 Name: Catherine Mc Carthy Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Florence Gender: Female Where born: Southwark, London, England Civil parish: St Olaves Ecclesiastical parish: St Olaves Town: Southwark County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St Olave Southwark ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Catherine Mc Carthy 30 Florence Mc Carthy 31 William Mc Carthy 8 could this be them???? Although she was born in a layin hospital, her parents may of actually been living in bermondsey area. Which is why she gives it as place of birth. Lots of my ancestors gave all different place of birth. One even gave Brighton, Sussex, when she was actually born in Lambeth.

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 10:48

here is the same family in 1901 just incase Name: Catherine Mc Carthy Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Florance Gender: Female Where born: Southwark, London, England Civil parish: St Olave and St Thomas Ecclesiastical parish: St Olave County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St Olave, Southwark ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 127 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Mc Carthy 40 Florance Mc Carthy 41 William Mc Carthy 19

Dan

Dan Report 31 Jan 2007 10:45

Thank you Siobhan. Yes I have had a look on FreeBMD and there are no other real possible marriages for a Florance and Catherine so think the 1901 must be them and most likely your 1881 also. Thank you Danielle

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 10:44

is this them in 1881, right ages Name: Catherine Mc Carltry Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Florence Gender: Female Where born: Burmondsey, Surrey, England Civil parish: Southwark St Olave County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 4 Mill Lane Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St Olave Southwark ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Catherine Mc Carltry 22 Florence Mc Carltry 23 Name: Florence Mc Carltry Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Burmondsey, Surrey, England Civil parish: Southwark St Olave County/Island: London Country: England

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 Jan 2007 10:32

Florance is such an unusual name for a man, i would pretty much say that is them in the 1901 census. Alot of my ancestors ages varied greatly in the census', so ages is not always something to go on.

Dan

Dan Report 31 Jan 2007 10:24

Hello Ann Not sure if that 1901 family is mine as Catherine and Florance's ages are out by over 10 years. The 1901 family you found shows Catherine as born c1873, yet my Catherine married in 1875. Thanks for your time with this Ann. Danielle