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I was going to order a birth certificate for my Great Grandfather, i already have his marraige certifiacte with the fathers but no idea of the year the father was born or where he was born ,as i thought it was northumberland but cant find his name listed under northumberland. I was wondering would i get details about this from my great grandfathers brith certificate?

From the GRO website: What details will I see? Short certificate Details contained on a short version of a birth certificate include the baby's names and surname, sex, date of birth and the name of the registration district and sub-district where the birth took place. Full certificate Details contained on a full birth certificate include all the above plus exact place of birth father's name (if given at time of registration), place of birth and occupation mother's name, place of birth, maiden surname and, after 1984, occupation Please note: registrations made before 1969 do not include details of the parents' place of birth and mother's occupation How can you order his birth certificate though if you have no idea where or when he was born? Sam x

It would tell you his place of birth, the exact date of birth, his mothers name and fathers if known, plus occupation. It also shows the registrar. You can't order it without knowing what year it happened though.... what's his name? and I'll have a look for the reference for you.

oh dear, i really need that place of birth. I have the reference of Thomas Stone's birth certificate, but it wont be much good to me as i needed information on the father and i already have his name and occupation.

You will need to find his birth reference in the right area. From that reference you can order a certificate to obtain details of the birth, ie. date of birth,place ( actual address or just village / town depending on your luck), parents, the father's occupation, mother's name and maiden name, name of informant and their relationship to the child. Gwyn

So you want his father's place of birth, not his?? When and where was Thomas born? What is his fathers name?

yes i want his fathers place of birth, and date would be good! Thomas Stone was born in Alnwick northumberland 1911 his fathers name is Stephen Stone

What was his occupation when Thomas was born?

he was a coal miner

Where did you get the information about Thomas's birth if you haven't got his birth certificate? I can't find a Thomas Stone registered in Alnwick in 1911. Kath. x

i got the information from my mother, there is a Thomas Stone registered in alnwick in 1911 i have the reference 10b 498

Do you know his mothers name? He was born in 1909, not 1911. Birth Sep 1909 Stone Thomas Alnwick 10b 498

I have no idea i need to order the birth certificate, i only have his marraige one and only received it today.

Have you actually checked this reference yourself? I've looked again and still can't find a Thomas Stone registered in Alnwick in 1911. Do you have the full reference with the qtr it was registered in? Kath. x

SORRY MY MISTAKE he was born 1909, getting mixed up with my Ggranmother, lol yes it sept 1909 alnwick.

O.k. Tracy - that's why I couldn't find him, lol. Kath. x

I think the best idea would be to buy his birth cert and get his mothers name. You can then look for the marriage between her and Stephen, and that will tell you how old they are (hopefully), and their fathers names, which should make them easier to locate in 1901.

Thank you, good idea! i also have another problem, i have their marraige certificate and Thomas Married Fanny Spears Stone, she was born 1911 and died in 1994 in Amble, where i visited her, although the death is registered in Newcastle Upon Tyne as thats where we live, the only problem is i cant find her birth anywhere?? i know her mother maiden name was Spears as her and my Granfather have that middle name for teh reason they are named after her maiden name, i want to purchase the birth certificate for her parent snames but cant find the birth for the reference!

View Record Fanny Spears Stone born 13 Sep 1910 died Aug 1996 aged 85 in Northumberland North Second Northumberland.

that is probably her actually, i wondered y i had down 1994 when my mother said she died after 1995, after my grandmother!