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just many thanks to the people who helped me with this thank you all so much

Stephen, If you are trying to work backwards then the advice remains the same as to that given to you yesterday - buy some certificates!! You have the birth registration for Olive - her birth certificate will show parents full names - you can then search for their marriage certificate which will show both parent´s names. Once you get back to 1901 it does get easier as you can search the census returns.

No! You know more than that! where did they live?,(if even only N S E or W) **Ok Elaine, message recived and understood! thanks

ok sorry though if i had more info might help to find them on here

This could be the birth registration for Ella Births Jun 1882 Hall Ella Alfreda E D Dartford 2a 468

Stephen - my apologies - I didn´t read your request properly and realise you now have details of the mother! And apologies to Jess as she would have helped you as well! Sorry! If you are sure of her name - and with a name like that I presume your are !! - then this looks like her marriage Marriages Dec 1910 Foard Bertram Camberwell 1d 1626 Hall Ella A E D Camberwell 1d 1626

This MIGHT BE her with her widowed mother - you'll only know this for sure by purchasing the required certificates: 1901 England Census Record about Ella Hall Name: Ella Hall Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Emily Gender: Female Where born: Dartford, Kent, England Civil parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Camberwell ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 39 Household Members: Name Age Ella Hall 18 Emily Hall 55 ( born: Bermondsey, London, England) Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 501; Folio: 120; Page: 11.

This is the only Bertram Foard I can see in 1901 - and the area matches up Ada Foard abt 1882 Peckham, London, England Daughter Camberwell London Bertram Foard abt 1885 Peckham, London, England Son Camberwell London James Foard abt 1878 Peckham, London, England Son Camberwell London Jane Foard abt 1851 Essex, England Head Camberwell London Robert Foard abt 1891 Peckham, London, England Son Camberwell London Rosie Foard Jane abt 1893 Peckham, London, England Daughter Camberwell London William Foard Jane abt 1875 Camberwell, London, England Son Camberwell London address 68 East Surrey Grove Jane (head) widow

Bertrams birth Births Sep 1885 Foard Bertram Camberwell 1d 845

thats ok elaine thank you for your help i am new to this so i am not trying to upset anyone just find out info and from the sounds of it this find your family tree thing is going to cost a lot to do lol but it should be worth it

No need to apologise Stephen - my fault - I jumped in without reading your request properly!!

ok elaine and again thank you for your help and every body else i am most gratefull for your time on this hunt for me

found these 2 births No Surname Forename1 Forename2 Forename3 Mothers maiden name District Page No Event Quarter Year View Image 1 Foard Kenneth Hall Lewisham.1d 2317 Birth 2 1920 2 Foard Sidney A Hall Camberwell.1d 1551 Birth 4 1913

You do of course need to make sure that we are working along the right lines - and really the only way to do that is to buy some certificates. If I was in your position I would purchase the marriage certificate of Bertram and Ella - this will confirm Bertram´s father´s name and occupation so you will know if the 1901 census is the right one. Although it is the only Bertram FOARD I can see, there is also a census reference for a Bertram Ford born in 1884 in Greenwich - you need to be sure you are working along the right line. I would also suggest you purchase Ella´s birth certificate, which will show both parents names. This will help to trace them in the census and also help to find their marriage. Do you have access to Ancestry - if not I would highly recommend it. You will need it to do census lookups. Although people on the board are quite happy to do them for you, believe me its not so much fun as finding the information for yourself. There are also quite a few tips for newbies on the Tips Board - have a read through them - am sure there will be something there to help you. And of course - don´t hesitate to come on here with any requests you have - and I´ll promise to read your request properly next time!!!

ok thank you marie for your time and help

Forgot to say - in case you don´t know - certificates can be purcased from http://www.gro(.)gov(.)uk/gro/content/ The cost is 7 pounds per certificate. Don´t forget to tick the box which says you have the GRO reference otherwise you will be charged 11 pounds.

Gladys E Foard (mmn Hall) 1922 Q4 - Lewisham 1d 1609

Joan M Foard (mmn Hall) 1927 Q1 - Lewisham 1d 1377

ok elaine i will buy some certificates and i will have a look at the tips board

oh marie gladys and joan ring a bell sounds like them thank you