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I have been trying to reasearch my mothers family and am coming up against brick walls. My grandfather was called James Deadman born 13 july 1913 basingstoke. I got his birth certificate and it tells me his parents were james deadman and laura deadman nee marshall i have searched the census and have mangaed to find james listed as a border on the 1901 and 1891 census but can find no trace of him previous to that. I ordered james and laura's marriage certificate dec 1907 for more clues it lists james father as william deadman corperal in the grenadier guards deceased and laura's father as william marshall also deceased but no proffession. I have looked on the census for these two to see if i can find the names of james or laura's mother and siblings but have no luck. I don't know where to go next! If any body can help i would appreciate it! Thank you lorraine

On the marriage cert, how old were the bride and groom? Who were the witnesses? Any addresses given? A location of some sort is essential for searching............ Reg

Can you also post 1891 and 1901 census details. Maureen

just so we can read it better I have been trying to reasearch my mothers family and am coming up against brick walls. My grandfather was called James Deadman born 13 july 1913 basingstoke. I got his birth certificate and it tells me his parents were james deadman and laura deadman nee marshall i have searched the census and have mangaed to find james listed as a border on the 1901 and 1891 census but can find no trace of him previous to that. I ordered james and laura's marriage certificate dec 1907 for more clues it lists james father as william deadman corperal in the grenadier guards deceased and laura's father as william marshall also deceased but no proffession. I have looked on the census for these two to see if i can find the names of james or laura's mother and siblings but have no luck. I don't know where to go next! If any body can help i would appreciate it! Thank you lorraine

OK, I've done some digging.............the marriage, so at least we have a location of sorts James Deadman 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec Basingstoke Berkshire, Hampshire Laura Marshall 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec Basingstoke Berkshire, Hampshire Reg

1901............ James Deadman abt 1878 Basingstoke, Hampshire, England Boarder Church Oakley Hampshire I can't see him in 1891....................... Reg

Name: Laura Marshall Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Edward Mother's name: Jane Gender: Female Where Born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Portsea Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Portsea Island Sub registration district: Kingston ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward Marshall 43 Edward Marshall 11 Ellen Marshall 14 Jane Marshall 39 Laura Marshall 10 Thomas Marshall

1891 bit of a difference in age ? Name: James Deadman Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where Born: Mattingley, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Ashe Ecclesiastical parish: Ashe Town: Ashe County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Whitchurch Sub registration district: Whitchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Deadman 17 Alfred H Selwood 10 Edith M Selwood 8 Emma Selwood 36 George H Selwood 33 Lillian B Selwood 2 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 961; Folio 141; Page 16; GSU roll: 6096071. Bit of a wild goose chase without some feedback. Maureen

Lorraine We need some answers from you.............help us to help you, please. Reg

Hi again, James deadman was 29 at time of marriage and a gardener. although in the census he was a cowman and on his sons birth certificate 1913 he was a cowman. residence church oakley. Laura Marshall was 28 at time of marriage there is an address but it is difficult to read it looks like 31 Halkifood road basingstoke. LAURIE:- on marriag certificate it lists laura's father as william MAUREEN -REG The listing i had for 1891 is the same one as Maureen has listed but not sure if it is the right James Deadman. Sorry for my slow response this is the first time i have done this did not realise you got answers so quickly was delight to see 6 replies so soon i will stay on line thanks for your help lorraine

Reg The witness were Harriett Fanny Hopkins and John P.Bartlett there is a middle name for John it looks like panshen not sure about the first 'n' thank you lorraine

One more answer, please, Lorraine...........the names of the witnesses on the marriage cert.......... Reg

Hi Reg The witness were Harriett Fanny Hopkins and John P.Bartlett there is a middle name for John it looks like panshen not sure about the first 'n' thank you lorraine

That's blown that, then............hoped they'd be relations of some sort!! Laura's father being 'deceased', and no occupation listed may mean that she didn't know him.............'deceased' is sometimes a face-saver for illegitimacy. Reg

Hi Reg, Yes that is why i got the marriage cert hoping to find some connection somewhere but to no avail. I don't no if there is some way of getting records re: william Deadman(James father) via grenadier guards do you? thanks lorraine

This birth fits the 1891 census for James Deadman. Mattingley is in Hartley Witney registration district. Name: James Deadman Year of Registration: 1874 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Hartley Wintney County: Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 165 Not sure about spending £7 on this certificate as does not fit with age on marriage cert. But as everyone else will tell you the ages on marriage certs are not always right. Maureen

Hi Maureen, Thank you, for the info. It is very frustrating not knowing if this is the right James Deadman. And not being able to find him on the 1881 census! I did my fathers tree and went back quite away and am know in touch with two distance cousins. It would be great to do the same for my mothers side of the family she would be really pleased, but i seem to be getting nowhere. My grandmother is still alive but does not know anything of my grandfathers side. She thinks he had a brother called norman and a sister called grace. but she does get confused. My grandfather was also called James Deadman born 13th July 1913. He married my grandmother and lived and died in wales. He is the only member of the family we know bmd details for. thank you lorraine

Hi found this GRO NATAL & S.AFRICAN FORCES DEATHS (1899 to 1902) 1899 - 1902 DAY to DEEVY Deadman W 1 Suffolk Regiment page 834

1881 my only suggestion Name: James Deedman Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's name: David Mother's name: Harriet Gender: Male Where Born: Ash, Surrey, England Civil parish: Ash and Normandy County/Island: Surrey Country: England Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Farnham Sub registration district: Frimley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Deedman 44 David Deedman 8 Ellen Deedman 1 Esther Deedman 12 George Deedman 21 Harriet Deedman 45 James Deedman 5 Joseph Deedman 10 Robert Deedman 15 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 783; Folio: 26; Page: 46; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341184. Not sure now if the 1891 James matches with this one - living in the same area. Father is wrong and not a soldier. My grandmothers half sister put her father as Herbert on her 3 marriage certificates but his name is Harold on her birth cert. Maureen

Hi Val, Thanks for this info, suppose William and family could have moved to suffolk. and James could have stayed in the Basingstoke area. thank you lorraine