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Looking for my granfathers birth details I came across three Charles Thompson's who were all born in the same year (1889) Newcastle. The year is correct. He married my gran Hannah Murry Fitzgerald in 1910. They lived on Scotswood Road Newcastle. On the Marraige cert. it states his father is called Jack Thompson and he is deceased. I never knew my grandfather as he died in 1916 in France. He was also served in India and re-enlisted in the 1914-18 War. ' Northumberland Fusiliers'. He was only 26 when he died and my gran was pregnant with her third child Charlotte, my mother. I know nothing else about him so I thought I would get his birth certificate , however ,which one?. Anyone out there who can help and give me some direction ? Cyndy

Hi Cyndy I know it's not exactly the information you required but have you seen his entry on the Commonwealth War Graves site? It gives his middle initial as C, is that any help to narrow it down? Emma

When you order the certificate, you will need to stipulate that the father must be Jack. Otherwise it will be the wrong cert. If the father is not Jack on the cert you order, they will not send it, then you can try again with one of the other Charles references, until you get the right one. Dianne xx

But if you use Jack as a reference point and his name is John on the cert then they won't send it and charge you £4.00!

True Pippa Doll, I never thought of that!! You'll just have to hope that the other Charles dads are called George and Thomas or something, and that there's only one dad called John/Jack. Dianne xx

I'll tootle off for a bit and see if I can find out all 3 dads names for you from censuses. Back soon. Dianne xx

There's this family in 1901 with Charles and John: J G Lamb abt 1874 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Boarder Elswick Northumberland Chas Thompson abt 1890 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Son Elswick Northumberland Ellen Thompson abt 1857 Durham, England Wife Elswick Northumberland John Thompson abt 1853 Cumberland, England Head Elswick Northumberland M Thompson abt 1885 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Daughter Elswick Northumberland R M Thompson abt 1897 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Daughter Elswick Northumberland S A Thompson abt 1892 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Daughter Elswick Northumberland W Thompson abt 1888 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Son Elswick Northumberland Not very helpful with just initials for most of them .... As Jim mentioned above, here's the family in 1891 (but John seems to have a different wife): Charles Thompson abt 1890 Newcastle Upon Tyne Son Elswick Northumberland View Record Isabella Thompson abt 1855 Ferryhill, Durham, England Wife Elswick Northumberland View Record John Thompson abt 1852 Oughterside, Cumberland, England Head Elswick Northumberland View Record Mary E Thompson abt 1885 Newcastle Upon Tyne Daughter Elswick Northumberland View Record William Thompson abt 1887 Newcastle Upon Tyne Son Elswick Northumberland Emma

I've come up with: Charles William 10b 156 JAS quarter 1889. I think he is the son of George Thompson and Sarah, from 22 Chillingham Road Heaton Newcastle. The other 2 Charles Thompson births I found are Charles Brodrick 10b 155 AMJ quarter 1889 and Charles 10b 72 OND quarter 1889. I have one other family living in Newcastle with a Charles for a son. They are John Thompson and Susanna at 11-13 Hepples Cottages Wallsend. If this is your Charles I think you would need to use Susanna as your checking point rather than John. I can't find the third Charles (Brodrick) on any census in Newcastle area (Northumberland) so the third one may live in Durham. Hope this makes sense. Dianne xx

I had a similar problem a while ago looking for Joseph Thompson - found 3 and didn't know which to choose. Advice from the lovely people on this board was to apply to the LOCAL Register Office and explain what you knew for sure. it worked for me and I received the correct cert. They were great, looked at all three and sent the one I needed - only cost me for one cert not 3.as it would have from Southport. kind regards Barbara

Thank you all for your research and advice and for all the trouble you have taken to help me in my search. I do appreciate all your help, after I requested help for some unknown reason I was unable to read the replies until now ?????
Maybe I did not know where to look???
only four and a half years !
I still am not convinced I have the right parents for my grandfather . I feel that the army could have further info which would point me in the right direction however the army records are also very confusing when it comes to Charles Thompson as they have some records of him enlisting when he was 29 ,as he died age 26 they have got some of the connecting records mixed up.I know that there are quite a few Charles Thompson's who died in the war. according to the war records he was a Sargeant in 1st Batt Northumberland Fusiliers. Thanyou for all your help.

here they are in 1911 census which may help you


Person: THOMPSON, Hannah Murry
Address: 19 Marys Place Back Walker Newcastle on Tyne



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THOMPSON, Charles Head Married M 21 1890 Labourer Birth Place -Wallsend C/o Northumberland VIEW
THOMPSON, Hannah Murry Wife Married F 20 1891 Birth Place -Working New Castle Open Tyne
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30791 Reference:
RG14PN30791 RG78PN1759 RD559 SD3 ED19 SN260

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Longbenton Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Walker

Address:
19 Marys Place Back Walker Newcastle on Tyne County:
Northumberland

1891 this one then
Name: Charles Thompson
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Thompson
Mother's name: Susanna Thompson
Gender: Male
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Wallsend
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Wallsend
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England


Name: John Thompson
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Susanna Thompson
Gender: Male
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Wallsend
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Wallsend
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Name: Susanna Thompson
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Thompson
Gender: Female
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Wallsend
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Wallsend


usehold Members:
Name Age
John Thompson 40
Susanna Thompson 40
Andrew Thompson 20
Cuthbert Thompson 18
John T Thompson 16
William Thompson 13
Mary Thompson 11
Leonard Thompson 7
James Thompson 7
Charles Thompson 2
Robert J Russell 18 image says these are sons and daughters so you may need to look for them in 1881 census to see who they are with -its free to search this census
Elizabeth Russell 23
Charlotte J Russell 10
Henry A Russell 7
James Whalen 23 boarder

for info cwgc site
THOMPSON, CHARLES
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers
Unit Text: 1st Bn
Age: 26
Date of Death: 14/07/1916
Service No: 13559
Additional information: Husband of Hannah Murray Thompson, of 227, Scotswood Rd., Newcastle-on-Tyne. Served in India, re-enlisted 1914.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 10 B 11 B and 12 B.

Where does it say he was born in 1911?

Who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Rose

1881
me: Jno. Thompson
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Susanna R. Thompson
Gender: Male
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Wallsend
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 4 Heppells Cottages
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Ship Rivetters Labourer
Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jno. Thompson 29
Susanna R. Thompson 29
Andrew Thompson 11
Cuthbert Thompson 8
Jno. T. Thompson 6
Wm. Thompson 3
Mary Thompson
/ I think the Russells may have been living next door in 1891 will see where they are in 1881

born Wallsend same as 1891 post(the only one i could see in 1891 and with father John)

1881 with their parents
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert S. Russell 42
Agnes Russell 40
Maria Russell 20
Elizabeth Russell 18
Agnes Russell 14
Robert J. Russell 11
John Russell 6
Thomas A. Russell 4
Charlotte J. Russell 2
Henry A. Russell

This is probably a red herring. But it's worth keeping it in mind in case of confussion.....
On Ancestry, there is a WW1 pension record for a Charles Thompson, in the Northumberland Fus. with reg.number 13559. Interestingly, this man gives his NoK as his father John (which often becomes Jack).
However, this man seems to be discharged in 1915 (although thanks to Ancestry's wonderful indexing, the promised 18 pages seem only to show 3 before a different person starts).
As I said, this is probably just a red herring, but it may help.

Sorry Jan,

Didn't see your 1911 census.

Rose

This looks to be his birth then:

Births Dec 1888
THOMPSON Charles Tynemouth 10b 172

Rose