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Henry-Lost in India!!! OREDERED BIRTH CERT-THANKS

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Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 19:40

Trying to find out anything about Henry J or Henry T Strong (Not clear on cert I have). In 1870 serving in Allahabad India in Indian Army. Had son william H J in 1870 there. Believe he (Henry) was married to someone called Alford.But can't find a marriage in this country. Would be in Devon-most likely places Crediton, Sandford or Exeter I would have thought-as that's where 'her' family came from I think (William is on 1881 census with 'granparents' James and Eliza Alford at Sandford,Crediton Devon) Can anyone help me find a marriage Of Henry-ANywhere to an Alford -roughly 1865 I'm guessing at. have checkedANcestry.co.uk and found nothing. ALso can't find Henry on 1901 Census in Devon. I know he was still alive in 1902 as he attended william's wedding in Exeter,Devon . Down on cert as 'Retired HMS ARmy' Where was he in between-and where /when was he born None of the 'Henry's' I've found in 1901 look likely! PLease someone out there help!! I've got loads of info on Sandford/Alfords/Strongs but can't match any of together. Thanks in advance for any help you might give.Spike

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 14 May 2006 21:12

hiya spike, hope you dont mind Trying to find out anything about Henry J or Henry T Strong (Not clear on cert I have). In 1870 serving in Allahabad India in Indian Army . Had son william H J in 1870 there. Believe he was married to someone called Alford.But can't find a marriage in this country. Would be in Devon-most likely places Crediton, Sandford or Exeter I would have thought-as that's where 'her' family came from I think (William is on 1881 census with 'granparents' James and Eliza Alford at Sandford,Crediton Devon) Can anyone help me find a marriage Of Henry-ANywhere to an Alford -roughly 1865 I'm guessing at. have checkedANcestry and found nothing . ALso can't find Henry on 1901 Census in Devon. I know he was still alive in 1902 as he attended william's wedding in Exeter,Devon . Down on cert as 'Retired HMS ARmy' is a bit better to read now, so william married an alford which was his grandmothers maiden name, this is correct yes?? when was henry born please?? any info would be good Julie

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 14 May 2006 21:21

hiya, is this them???? View Record Elizabeth Strong abt 1851 Hookway, Devon, England Wife Crediton Devon View Record Henry Strong abt 1836 Kenerleigh, Devon, England Head Crediton Devon View Record Henry Strong abt 1874 Gwalior, East Indies Son Crediton Devon but was 1881 cen julie

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 21:22

NO! William Henry John Strong married a Wilmott Bessie Davey in 1901. His Grandparents were alford. Knowing that his father was Henry Strong this presumedly means his mum was Nee Alford. On 1881 census William was 10 and with the 'Alford' granparents at 'Hatttins' Farm in Sandford Crediton Devon. I know all about William from 1881 onwards until his deathg. But very little of his Parents. I cannot even find a daughter belonging to James and Elizabeth ALford either! If that was his Mother then they must have had one! Sorry for the delay in answering-Kids again! ANd no paragraphs!!! xxx

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 21:26

Reply to your meaage about census-NO as well!! James and Eliza/Elizabeth and definitely Sandford,Crediton. Next to 'Strong's which was also a farm-but not occupied by them! There is also an Ellen Strong and a Samuel Strong in neighbouring properties-but not sure of a connection. Also in 1901 census in Exeter there is a Henry Strong also born in India-a possible brother maybe-but again can't prove anything. It's very very frustrating!

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 14 May 2006 21:28

hiya, right i gottim now, 1901 with davy family View Record Charlotte Davey abt 1848 Crediton, Devon, England Head Alphington Devon View Record Wilmont B Davey abt 1876 Alphington, Devon, England Daughter Alphington Devon View Record William H J Strong abt 1871 Allarabad, India Boarder Alphington Devon julie

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 21:31

That's right.He married Wilmont/Bessie -I have the marriage cert-in 1902,Exeter. William down as a Carpenter. He also did Church work if that's any help! They didn't have any of there own children that survived-but took on my Grandad-an illegitemate child-but that's another one! but I have solved that one!!! xx

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 14 May 2006 21:33

yep i know what you mean, but i'll try my hardest, to find him for you, do you know when he was pensioned out?? the dad that is? i found one in 1901 with elizabeth and a son henry born india, wondered if was connected, i know what you mean about paragraphs, when you typing a request, is always better if its a big request to just type see below, then reply to yourself and put in paragraphed request there, is a pain in neck fault with this site Julie

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 21:36

Is that the one in St Sidwells Exeter ? No don't know when he was Pensioned out- Wouldn't have a clue!

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 14 May 2006 21:42

this is for ref: 1881 View Record Elizabeth Alford abt 1814 Sandford, Devon, England Wife Sandford Devon View Record James Alford abt 1827 Sandford, Devon, England Head Sandford Devon View Record William Strong abt 1871 India Grandson Sandford Devon so have you got him in 1891??? julie

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 14 May 2006 21:45

this is the one 1901 i saw, is same as you?? View Record Annie Strong abt 1876 Sandford, Devon, England Wife Exeter Devon View Record Florrie Strong abt 1897 Exeter, Devon, England Daughter Exeter Devon View Record Henry Strong abt 1875 India Head Exeter Devon View Record Thomas Hy Strong abt 1900 Son Exeter Devon julie, i knowis long shot but have you checked for a marriage between henry and annie??? may help

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 21:49

No-I haven't managed to find him Found Charlotte Davey-recently widowed and the daughter Bessie mistranscribed as Jessie-but unmistakably them(found husbands death). William done a disappearing act that census!

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 21:53

Yes!-Tried this-several possible Annies-also about 5 Henry Strongs in Crediton and Sandford alone. Even went through a data disc I have and put all the Strong families down on ten sheets of paper.Got a map and plotted where they all were in Crediton Sanford and Exeter. Did the same with the Strongs that ran pubs everywhere as well.But not all connected. Loads of Strongs came from Crediton to Exeter-The mill I think? They also lived near to Sargent family-My illegitimate Grandad's real name-so think there's a link there somewhere as well!! Oh well!

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 14 May 2006 21:54

I found him 1891!!! he is living with mortimer family, fox and hounds pub, head is publican and wheewright, william is apprentice wheelwright!!! View Record William Strong abt 1862 Sandford, Devon, England Apprentice Sandford Devon View Record Charles H Mortimore abt 1884 Sandford, Devon, England Son Sandford Devon View Record Elsie G Mortimore abt 1886 Sandford, Devon, England Daughter Sandford Devon View Record Florence Mortimore abt 1888 Sandford, Devon, England Daughter Sandford Devon View Record John Mortimore abt 1852 Cruwys Morchard, Devon, England Head Sandford Devon View Record Lucy Mortimore abt 1849 Sandford, Devon, England Wife Sandford Devon another bit solved!! julie

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 21:56

Annies- there wasn't an Annie Alford marriage-also I tried Stoneman in case Eliza had had her before she was married (Eliza was prev. Stoneman) but ther wan't one of these either.

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 21:59

Do you think so? The date is a little bit early (9 years) and also it says he was born I Sandford-he was definitely born in India-But then again if he had been brought up by Grandparents-whoever filled it in may not have known! You could be onto something! I will look into this further thanks.!!

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 14 May 2006 22:04

aha!! i checked census image, regarding dates, it clearly states william as 20, which would be 1871 birth year, as near as dammit anyway, likewise if his grandparents didnt tell him where he was born, or maybe if he filled in census himself could he spell the place in india where he was born, i know sandford is a damn site easier!! LOL julie

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 22:12

I think you're probably right!! I'll look into the family he's staying with-maybe thatll throw somethin up! Thanks so much. Off to bed soon.Eyes going and only had 2 hours sleep last night. Cub Camp!-need I say more!!! xxx

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 14 May 2006 22:14

ok no worries, b4 u go, do you know when henry was born? then i can begin task of tryign to find him julie

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 14 May 2006 22:23

Hi Just looked on 1881 for Mortimores. Found John and Lucy.married no kids-next door to an Elizabeth Stoneman ( the granny Alfords maiden name) and a John Henry Alford. this is confusing but exciting. Your'e definitely on to something!!! Can't go to bed now-got a second wind!!