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I'm looking for Charles Veal b1837 son Edward Veal b1851 son seeing their ages are so far apart I'm not sure whether they'll show up at same address. Thanks in advance :-) Lorraine

charles was born St Luke, Middlesex and Edward in Shoreditch

Is this Charles?? He is a shoemaker Address, park place, they are living with a family of Peters and Ross's... 1861; View Record Charles Veal abt 1840 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex View Record Emma R Veal abt 1840 Surrey, England Wife Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex RG9/248 Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerstone East ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 103 Page: 4 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 18 GSU Number: 542599

Thanks Lady Liberty that was the Charles I was looking for :-). Edward would still have lived with his parents then and I don't know who they were :-(

I wonder who the Peter and Ross's are? I've had trouble finding Edward. I've got him on the 1881 and 1901 but that's it.

This is same family in 1871: There is an Edward with them but year of birth 1864?? Charles is a shoe maker.. View Record Charles Veal abt 1840 B Green, Middlesex, England Head Bethnal Green London View Record Charles Veal abt 1862 B Green, Middlesex, England Son Bethnal Green London View Record Edward Veal abt 1864 B Green, Middlesex, England Son Bethnal Green London View Record Elizabeth Veal abt 1869 B Green, Middlesex, England Daughter Bethnal Green London View Record Emma Veal abt 1842 B Green, Middlesex, England Wife Bethnal Green London View Record Emma Veal abt 1866 B Green, Middlesex, England Daughter Bethnal Green London View Record Frederick Veal abt 1870 B Green, Middlesex, England Son Bethnal Green London

That's def the right family but they must have named their son after his brother Edward

So there was a older Edward too??? If he was born 1851 his parents would have only been 13/14yr old??

Yes he was Charles brother

1861 (Edward) Benjamin Veal abt 1842 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex Edward Veal abt 1850 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex Henry Veal abt 1851 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex James Veal abt 1813 St Giles Halton, Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex Sophia Veal abt 1814 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Wife Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex William Veal abt 1832 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch St Leonard

Edward is my gg grandfather and the one i'm trying to trace. The census you gave me just gives me more information in proving Charles is his brother

oh sorry Lorraine, i thought you meant Charles c1837 was Edward c1851 father....lol

ooh thanks carrie that looks like it could be him. The names Henry, James and William are names that have been passed down through the Veal family :-)

lol gets confusing doesn't it Lady

1851: Edward may not have been born yet.. James, William and Charles are Shoe maker's Address, Horse shoe Alley View Record Benjamin Veal abt 1842 Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch Middlesex View Record Chalres Veal abt 1839 Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch Middlesex View Record Henry Veal abt 1850 Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch Middlesex View Record James Veal abt 1809 Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch Middlesex View Record John Veal abt 1844 Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch Middlesex View Record Sophia Veal abt 1846 Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch Middlesex View Record Sophie Veal abt 1813 Middlesex, England Wife Shoreditch Middlesex View Record William Veal abt 1835 Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch Middlesex HO107/1533 Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Holywell ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 245 Page: 34 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 138 GSU Number: 174763 i can tell im getting tired.....lol Lib:))

He may not have been born when the 1851 census was taken

They're definately all the same family. On my g grandparents marriage certificate it says Edward is a shoemaker

1891: Edward is a Boot maker, Mary is a Boot makers assistant, Edward Junior is a wood cutter. Address Looks like Chapman Road.. View Record Edward Veal abt 1852 London City Head Hackney London View Record Edward Veal abt 1874 Hackney, London, England Son Hackney London View Record Henry Veal abt 1883 Hackney, London, England Son Hackney London View Record Mary Veal abt 1854 Suffolk, England Wife Hackney London View Record Mary A Veal abt 1885 Hackney, London, England Daughter Hackney London RG12/207 Registration district: Hackney Sub registration district: South Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Folio: 142 Page: 71 GSU Number: 6095317 Lib :))

I wonder where Edward got to in the 1871 census. he had his first child in 1873 so he could have been married then. He married a Mary Ann Frost. Anyway you've been a great help Lady Liberty, thanks ever so much it's greatly appreciated :-) Lorraine

That's great, it'd bethe right ones because I know they were living in Chapman Road in 1902