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Fresh eyes needed for 1861 census please....

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Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 17:41

I can't locate the following family in 1861, can any body spot them please, details from 1851 below:

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 17:46

This is the family in 1851, Elizabeth married in 1865 and was living in Newton Heath Manchester Lancs, Her father is NOT stated as being deceased on cert, he is a Collier/Coal miner... I have Elizabeth in all other census, just want family in 1861 for now... Coughton/Loughton should read CONGLETON... View Record Elizabeth Colclough abt 1841 Coughton, Cheshire, England Daughter Openshaw Lancashire View Record Hannah Colclough abt 1841 Loughton, Cheshire, England Daughter Openshaw Lancashire View Record Henry Colclough abt 1848 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Openshaw Lancashire View Record James Colclough abt 1844 Coughton, Cheshire, England Son Openshaw Lancashire View Record John Colclough abt 1811 Mowcop, Staffordshire, England Head Openshaw Lancashire View Record Samuel Colclough abt 1839 Coughton, Cheshire, England Son Openshaw Lancashire View Record Sarah Colclough abt 1819 Market Drayton, Shropshire, England Wife Openshaw Lancashire HO107/2219 Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Didbury ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Folio: 470 Page: 39 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 149 GSU Number: 87229 Im just going to collect my son, so will reply in half hour. Any help appreciated! Lib :))

Suein10b

Suein10b Report 31 Mar 2006 18:11

maybe buts Mum is Jane Elizabeth Colclough abt 1842 Congleton, Cheshire, England Daughter Congleton Cheshire View Record Jane Gee abt 1818 Congleton, Cheshire, England Head Congleton Cheshire

Gerry

Gerry Report 31 Mar 2006 18:15

Nope.... I am afraid I cannot find any likely candidates. Gerry :-))

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 18:16

Hi guys.. I have seen that one, name Jane??? so im not convinced.. Elizabeth married in Manchester in 1865 in the same area the family were living in 1851...her marriage cert does'nt state her Father is deceased, although im aware he could have been....

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 18:33

Hi are you sure you have the right Elizabeth's marriage or the right family in 1851? 1851: Coughton is actually a place near Congleton Elizabeth Colclough abt 1840 Congleton, Cheshire, England Daughter Congleton Cheshire Elizabeth Colclough abt 1841 Coughton, Cheshire, England Daughter Openshaw Lancashire Perhaps the family you have in 1851 emigrated? Do you have her on censuses after marriage and where does it state she came from? Suzanne

Vera

Vera Report 31 Mar 2006 18:37

Hi Lib, Some of the parishes from the 1861 census are missing, according to Ancestry. They give a whole load of piece numbers, but do not say where they are. Sorry, this is not very helpful for your search !!! Regards Vera

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 18:42

Hi Suzanne, I deffo have correct marriage for Elizabeth im using info on cert to try and locate the family in 1861, ie father named as John Colclough, occupation Collier.. I didnt know Coughton was an area near Congleton, thanks for that ,on later census Elizabeth gives Congleton Cheshire as place of birth, so i guess either birh place could be right....not much help in pin pointing her though lol Ive just had another look at 1851 image, i think it reads Congleton....

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 18:46

Could be Sam in 1871 so they didnt move away from area? Ann Colclough abt 1869 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire View Record Hannah Colclough abt 1848 Bolton, Lancashire, England Wife Newton Lancashire View Record Samuel Colclough abt 1842 Congleton, Cheshire, England Head Newton Lancashire View Record Samuel Colclough abt 1870 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record Sarah Elizabeth Colclough abt 1866 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 18:47

Thanks Suzanne, That is deffinatley a possibility for Samuel... Yes Elizabeth lived in Newton Heath untill she died, so she deffo stayed in that area too....

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 19:11

Dont know if this will be of any help, in 1871 census there is a William Colclough c1861 born Newton Heath living with above Elizabeth and her husband, he is stated as 'son in law' however image could read Step son, so in 1861 there may be a illegitimate Child living with her too.......... here are details: She gives her place of birth as Congleton Cheshire in 1881.. >>>View Record William Coclough abt 1861 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son-in-law Newton Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1844 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Wife Newton Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1868 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire View Record Enoch Pollitt abt 1869 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record John Pollitt abt 1871 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record Luke Pollitt abt 1841 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Head Newton Lancashire View Record Sarah J Pollitt abt 1866 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 19:17

Hi What what Elizabeths maried name and what is the address on marriage cert? Was she a spinster? Ill see if I can find address? Suzanne

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 19:22

Hi Lady, well its funny becuase I came across this family before you said about william 1861? First names and dates of childrens are all correct, just last names and places of births a bit out!!!? Ill check image and see what it says. 1861: Albert Street, Newton Heath. Elizabeth Colleton abt 1842 Loughton, Shropshire, England Wife Newton Heath Lancashire View Record Samuel Colleton abt 1841 Loughton, Shropshire, England Son-in-law Newton Heath Lancashire View Record William Colleton abt 1860 Newton, Lancashire, England Son Newton Heath Lancashire View Record Henry Walmsley abt 1848 Loughton, Shropshire, England Son Newton Heath Lancashire View Record James Walmsley abt 1844 Loughton, Shropshire, England Son Newton Heath Lancashire View Record Sarah Walmsley abt 1818 Market Drayton, Shropshire, England Head Newton Heath Lancashire Sarah is widowed (Silk Winder), James and henry (print works labourers), Samuel (Coal Miner), Elizabeth (Silk Weaver) ..names are completely wrong on image so dont think its them. Suzanne

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 19:51

Hi again Suzanne, There is no address as such on Elizabeth's marriage cert, it just says Newton Heath, she is a spinster, I know Elizabeth deffo had a son named Enoch Pollitt c1869. In 1871 Elizabeth is living at 13 Queen street newton Heath, this is same address Enoch's gives on his marriage cert in 1891, his father is Luke Pollitt (deceased). 1881; I have found An Elizabeth Pollit in 1881 with son Enoch c1869, she is a widow however they are now living at Peel Street, im now not sure this is my Elizabeth or not..............jeeze im getting confused .... 1891; Elizabeth is back living at same address as 1871 ( 13 Queen street) but she is now a Elizabeth Stones and there is now a Charles Pollitt c1875 that suddenly appears too...lol 1891; View Record Chares Pollitt abt 1876 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1867 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire View Record Henry Pollitt abt 1872 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Stones abt 1840 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Wife Newton Lancashire View Record James Stones abt 1840 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Head Newton Lancashire 1901; Elizabeth still at 13 Queen street, but now she is Married to a James Pollitt... i think i have a serial bride on my hands... Address, 13 Queen street... Head railway labourer.. 1901 View Record Alice Pollitt abt 1889 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Granddaughter North Manchester Lancashire View Record Charles Pollitt abt 1873 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son North Manchester Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1838 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Wife North Manchester Lancashire View Record Henry Pollitt abt 1871 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son North Manchester Lancashire View Record James Pollitt abt 1839 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Head North Manchester Lancashire What was my original request...lol ive forgotten!

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 20:09

1881: 13 Queen street - Newton 13 Queen Street - Newton in makerfield No one there by the name of Colclough or Pollitt, or Luke, or Elizabeth or james or Charles c or Stone? Suzanne

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 20:13

Lady...going back to the first census 1901, who is the direct ancestor you are following? and what details do you have of them? Suzanne

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 20:13

Suzanne, Thanks for checking... Thats what im confused about now, they are living on Peel street in 1881, but back at 13 Queen Street in 1891....

cane

cane Report 31 Mar 2006 20:19

lib, have looked through three thousand names,cannot find head nor tail of them, will keep looking for you. gwen i am quite sure that the name has been mis-printed,into what though i'me not sure.

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 20:32

Thanks every one for your help and input, im now very dizzy with Colclough's, Pollitt's and Stones.....lol Cheers again, Lib.. Gwen thanks for looking, much appreciated!

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 20:41

1891: Is this your Enoch? Enoch Pollitt abt 1870 Fancashire, Failsworth Head Newton Lancashire Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1870 Stockport, Cheshire, England Wife Newton Lancashire Cant read address but it isnt Queens Street! 1881: 12 Peel Street, Newton, Lancashire, England Elizh. Pollitt abt 1848 Congleton, Cheshire, England Head William Pollitt abt 1860 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Sarah J. Pollitt abt 1865 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Elizh. Pollitt abt 1867 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Enoch Pollitt abt 1869 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Harry Pollitt abt 1871 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Charles Pollitt abt 1875 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son 1871: Same family Luke Pollitt abt 1841 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Head Newton Lancashire Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1844 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Wife Newton Lancashire William Coclough abt 1861 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son-in-law Newton Lancashire Sarah J Pollitt abt 1866 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1868 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire Enoch Pollitt abt 1869 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire John Pollitt abt 1871 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire Marriages Mar 1865 Colclough Elizabeth Manchester 8d 302 Crone Ellen Manchester 8d 302 Pollitt Luke Manchester 8D 302 Walmsley William Manchester 8d 302 I think you may have a double wedding here of sorts between family members as Walmsley ties in with the family I found in 1861 and Crone are the family living at 13 Queens Street, Newton in 1881????????? Hang on Ill check Suzanne