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Fresh eyes needed for 1861 census please....

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Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 22:11

lol...I know blow the housework I need dinner! LOL. Yeah...got this from IGI: SAMUEL COLCLOUGH Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH BARLOW Marriage: 12 FEB 1865 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England Jst a few weekss earlier doh then she wouldnt have been a Barlow on Elizabeths wedding!!!!!!!!!!!! this could drive you mad Suzanne

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 21:35

Yes Suzanne looks like it, as Samuel's wife is Hannah in 1871 census.....the one YOU found lol Blimey Suzanne weve been at this since 5.45, i dont spend this much time on the housework......pmsl Talking of double weddings, ive got a feeling Samuel and his sister Elizabeth may have married on same day, as Elizabeth married on Feb 28th 1865, and Hannah is a Barlow and her marriage is March quarter too....or maybe im just going off track altogether or doing a Mills and Boon! lol Would page and Vol be same if they married on same day??? Oh just realised Elizabeth and Luke married on my sisters birthday... ********************************************************* Just need to put this somewhere...think this is Hannah, Elizabeths Older sister... 1861 View Record Edward Maguire abt 1838 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Bradford Lancashire View Record Hannah Maguire abt 1840 Congleton, Cheshire, England Daughter-in-law Bradford Lancashire View Record James Maguire abt 1804 Dublin, Ireland Head Bradford Lancashire View Record James Maguire abt 1848 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Bradford Lancashire View Record Martha C Maguire abt 1860 Bradford, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Bradford Lancashire View Record May Maguire abt 1809 Dublin, Ireland Wife Bradford Lancashire **************************************** 1861 Address Bradford road... Hesd is a Mill furnace man View Record Elizabeth Barlow abt 1825 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife Bradford Lancashire >>> View Record Hannah Barlow abt 1848 Bolton, Lancashire, England Daughter Bradford Lancashire View Record Henry Barlow abt 1860 Bradford, Lancashire, England Son Bradford Lancashire View Record Thomas Barlow abt 1825 Little Bolton, Lancashire, England Head Bradford Lancashire View Record Thomas Barlow abt 1858 Bradford, Lancashire, England Son Bradford Lancashire View Record Isabella Sutton abt 1839 Manchester, Lancashire, England Sister-in-law Bradford Lancashire

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 21:25

Not that it means much but Hannahs is probably Samuels future wife? Marriages Mar 1865 Barlow Hannah Manchester 8d 237 Colclough Samuel Manchester 8d 237 perhaps its another confirmation that you are following the right family? Suzanne

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 21:13

Hi Suzanne.. Elizabeth and Luke's: Witnesses are Thomas and Hannah Barlow... Thanks, im still having a look for Elizabeth and brood in 1861...

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 21:07

LOL...oh Lady, Im so sorry, Ive got a bee in my bonnet now..I know how you must be feeling!!! One last chance....Witnesses on marriage certs? Suzanne

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 20:54

oh boy Suzanne, Dont think i can handle any more names lol Thanks for double checking it though!

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 20:50

Sorry Lady, I think Im jumping at conclusions here (grasping at straws). Dont think it is Crone living at Queens street in 1881: Ann Wroe abt 1879 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter 13 Queen St, Newton, Lancashire, England View Record Elizth. Wroe abt 1840 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Wife 13 Queen St, Newton, Lancashire, England View Record John Wroe abt 1870 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son 13 Queen St, Newton, Lancashire, England View Record Joseph Wroe abt 1839 Moston, Lancashire, England Head 13 Queen St, Newton, Lancashire, England View Record Joseph Wroe abt 1873 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son 13 Queen St, Newton, Lancashire, England View Record Mary Wroe abt 1875 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter 13 Queen St, Newton, Lancashire, England View Record Sarah Wroe abt 1866 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter 13 Queen St, Newton, Lancashire, England View Record Thomas Wroe abt 1864 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son 13 Queen St, Newton, Lancashire, England

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 20:45

Suzanne Yes thats Enoch and his Wife...he married on March 14th 1891 just before census, he gives address as 13 Queen street on marriage cert... Thank for being persistant, ive had'nt noticed the two marriages before, looks like they are connected some how.... Just thought, the connection between the families in terms of address must be why Elizabeth ends up back there after 1881... Thanks again Suzanne, you've been brill...

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 20:41

1891: Is this your Enoch? Enoch Pollitt abt 1870 Fancashire, Failsworth Head Newton Lancashire Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1870 Stockport, Cheshire, England Wife Newton Lancashire Cant read address but it isnt Queens Street! 1881: 12 Peel Street, Newton, Lancashire, England Elizh. Pollitt abt 1848 Congleton, Cheshire, England Head William Pollitt abt 1860 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Sarah J. Pollitt abt 1865 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Elizh. Pollitt abt 1867 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Enoch Pollitt abt 1869 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Harry Pollitt abt 1871 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Charles Pollitt abt 1875 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son 1871: Same family Luke Pollitt abt 1841 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Head Newton Lancashire Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1844 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Wife Newton Lancashire William Coclough abt 1861 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son-in-law Newton Lancashire Sarah J Pollitt abt 1866 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1868 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire Enoch Pollitt abt 1869 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire John Pollitt abt 1871 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire Marriages Mar 1865 Colclough Elizabeth Manchester 8d 302 Crone Ellen Manchester 8d 302 Pollitt Luke Manchester 8D 302 Walmsley William Manchester 8d 302 I think you may have a double wedding here of sorts between family members as Walmsley ties in with the family I found in 1861 and Crone are the family living at 13 Queens Street, Newton in 1881????????? Hang on Ill check Suzanne

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 20:32

Thanks every one for your help and input, im now very dizzy with Colclough's, Pollitt's and Stones.....lol Cheers again, Lib.. Gwen thanks for looking, much appreciated!

cane

cane Report 31 Mar 2006 20:19

lib, have looked through three thousand names,cannot find head nor tail of them, will keep looking for you. gwen i am quite sure that the name has been mis-printed,into what though i'me not sure.

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 20:13

Suzanne, Thanks for checking... Thats what im confused about now, they are living on Peel street in 1881, but back at 13 Queen Street in 1891....

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 20:13

Lady...going back to the first census 1901, who is the direct ancestor you are following? and what details do you have of them? Suzanne

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 20:09

1881: 13 Queen street - Newton 13 Queen Street - Newton in makerfield No one there by the name of Colclough or Pollitt, or Luke, or Elizabeth or james or Charles c or Stone? Suzanne

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 19:51

Hi again Suzanne, There is no address as such on Elizabeth's marriage cert, it just says Newton Heath, she is a spinster, I know Elizabeth deffo had a son named Enoch Pollitt c1869. In 1871 Elizabeth is living at 13 Queen street newton Heath, this is same address Enoch's gives on his marriage cert in 1891, his father is Luke Pollitt (deceased). 1881; I have found An Elizabeth Pollit in 1881 with son Enoch c1869, she is a widow however they are now living at Peel Street, im now not sure this is my Elizabeth or not..............jeeze im getting confused .... 1891; Elizabeth is back living at same address as 1871 ( 13 Queen street) but she is now a Elizabeth Stones and there is now a Charles Pollitt c1875 that suddenly appears too...lol 1891; View Record Chares Pollitt abt 1876 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1867 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire View Record Henry Pollitt abt 1872 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Stones abt 1840 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Wife Newton Lancashire View Record James Stones abt 1840 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Head Newton Lancashire 1901; Elizabeth still at 13 Queen street, but now she is Married to a James Pollitt... i think i have a serial bride on my hands... Address, 13 Queen street... Head railway labourer.. 1901 View Record Alice Pollitt abt 1889 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Granddaughter North Manchester Lancashire View Record Charles Pollitt abt 1873 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son North Manchester Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1838 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Wife North Manchester Lancashire View Record Henry Pollitt abt 1871 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Son North Manchester Lancashire View Record James Pollitt abt 1839 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Head North Manchester Lancashire What was my original request...lol ive forgotten!

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 19:22

Hi Lady, well its funny becuase I came across this family before you said about william 1861? First names and dates of childrens are all correct, just last names and places of births a bit out!!!? Ill check image and see what it says. 1861: Albert Street, Newton Heath. Elizabeth Colleton abt 1842 Loughton, Shropshire, England Wife Newton Heath Lancashire View Record Samuel Colleton abt 1841 Loughton, Shropshire, England Son-in-law Newton Heath Lancashire View Record William Colleton abt 1860 Newton, Lancashire, England Son Newton Heath Lancashire View Record Henry Walmsley abt 1848 Loughton, Shropshire, England Son Newton Heath Lancashire View Record James Walmsley abt 1844 Loughton, Shropshire, England Son Newton Heath Lancashire View Record Sarah Walmsley abt 1818 Market Drayton, Shropshire, England Head Newton Heath Lancashire Sarah is widowed (Silk Winder), James and henry (print works labourers), Samuel (Coal Miner), Elizabeth (Silk Weaver) ..names are completely wrong on image so dont think its them. Suzanne

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 19:17

Hi What what Elizabeths maried name and what is the address on marriage cert? Was she a spinster? Ill see if I can find address? Suzanne

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 19:11

Dont know if this will be of any help, in 1871 census there is a William Colclough c1861 born Newton Heath living with above Elizabeth and her husband, he is stated as 'son in law' however image could read Step son, so in 1861 there may be a illegitimate Child living with her too.......... here are details: She gives her place of birth as Congleton Cheshire in 1881.. >>>View Record William Coclough abt 1861 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son-in-law Newton Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1844 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Wife Newton Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Pollitt abt 1868 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire View Record Enoch Pollitt abt 1869 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record John Pollitt abt 1871 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record Luke Pollitt abt 1841 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Head Newton Lancashire View Record Sarah J Pollitt abt 1866 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 31 Mar 2006 18:47

Thanks Suzanne, That is deffinatley a possibility for Samuel... Yes Elizabeth lived in Newton Heath untill she died, so she deffo stayed in that area too....

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 31 Mar 2006 18:46

Could be Sam in 1871 so they didnt move away from area? Ann Colclough abt 1869 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire View Record Hannah Colclough abt 1848 Bolton, Lancashire, England Wife Newton Lancashire View Record Samuel Colclough abt 1842 Congleton, Cheshire, England Head Newton Lancashire View Record Samuel Colclough abt 1870 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Son Newton Lancashire View Record Sarah Elizabeth Colclough abt 1866 Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England Daughter Newton Lancashire