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Hello My name is Craig Rowberry and I am doing my family tree. I am looking for my great great grandparents Edward WILLIAMS and Ann WILLIAMS formerly JAMES. I am trying to track them down in the Census. I know that they had a child by the name of William WILLIAMS born on the 18th April 1862 in Ynysddu, Mynyddyslwyn. At the time William's father (Edward WILLIAMS) was working as a Plate Layer. I also know that he could not read or write as he could not sign his name on William's birth certificate. I would think that Edward and Ann would have been working and living in Mynyddyslwyn in 1871 or 1881 and maybe they will pop up in the Censuses? Please could you have a look for me? I would guess that Edward WILLIAMS would have been about 42yrs and Ann WILLIAMS would be around the same age, I would imagine. I do not think that William would pop up there as i think he lived some where else in 1881. Thank you very much for your time Craig Rowberry

can i split it up a bit to make it easier to unravel- GR jumbles paragraphs Hello My name is Craig Rowberry and I am doing my family tree. I am looking for my great great grandparents Edward WILLIAMS and Ann WILLIAMS formerly JAMES. I am trying to track them down in the Census. I know that they had a child by the name of William WILLIAMS born on the 18th April 1862 in Ynysddu, Mynyddyslwyn. At the time William's father (Edward WILLIAMS) was working as a Plate Layer. I also know that he could not read or write as he could not sign his name on William's birth certificate. I would think that Edward and Ann would have been working and living in Mynuddyslwyn in 1881 and maybe they will pop up in the 1881 Census? Please could you have a look for me? I would guess that Edward WILLIAMS would have been about 42yrs and Ann WILLIAMS would be around the same age, I would imagine. I do not think that William would pop up there as i think he lived some where else in 1881. Thank you very much for your time Craig Rowberry

Craig I'm confused, you say in your title help with 1861-71 and then you seem to be asking for an 1881 look up? nell

Yes - it is much easier to read now lol Thank you Craig

a brief look ...1881 Williams/resident parish of Mynuddyslwyn has no returns where is Mynuddyslwyn please

So I have I will correct it now thnak you for noticing that

Craig do you know Williams parents birth years?

Mynyddyslwyn is in Monmouth in Wales but it could come under Glamorgan aswell

1871 Ann Williams abt 1824 Mynyddislwyn Wife Mynyddislwyn Monmouthshire Daniel Williams abt 1860 Mynyddislwyn Son Mynyddislwyn Monmouthshire Edward Williams abt 1825 Llanfiangel, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Mynyddislwyn Monmouthshire William Williams abt 1862 Mynyddislwyn Son Mynyddislwyn Monmouthshire Edward is a plate layer - can't read street address, I'm afraid!

And what would Williams occupation be?

Sadly I do not know when William's parents were born I would have a guess that maybe in the 1840's

William was a coal miner on his marriage cet. in 1889

Craig do you have this family in any censues if so please post them Zoe

Zoe I have already posted 1871 census info above!!! Craig This may be Daniel Williams (William's brother) on 1881 census - he is a coal miner Elizabeth Rees abt 1845 Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales Wife Rheola St No 20, Llanwonno, Glamorgan, Wales Hannah Iona Rees abt 1879 Penrhiewceiber, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Rheola St No 20, Llanwonno, Glamorgan, Wales Jno. Morgan Rees abt 1880 Penrhiewceiber, Glamorgan, Wales Son Rheola St No 20, Llanwonno, Glamorgan, Wales Thos. Rees abt 1842 Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales Head Rheola St No 20, Llanwonno, Glamorgan, Wales >>>Daniel Williams abt 1860 Mynyddislwyn Boarder Rheola St No 20, Llanwonno, Glamorgan, Wales

Thank you Susan for all that information its great!!! thank you again craig

... and this may be William on 1881 - he is a coal miner: Aaron Dando abt 1862 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Boarder 57 Commercial St., Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Hugh Davies abt 1837 Danycrinog, Merionethshire, Wales Boarder 57 Commercial St., Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Mary Ann Davies abt 1832 Walwyns Castle, Pembrokeshire, Wales Head 57 Commercial St., Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales William Lewis abt 1859 Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales Boarder 57 Commercial St., Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales >>>William Williams abt 1862 Mynyddislwyn, Monmouth, Wales Boarder 57 Commercial St., Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales

Susan I know I am being cheeky but is there any other census information on the family e.g. later entries (1881-1891)? thanks craig

Susan You are great!! yes that would be him as on his marriage cert. in 1889 his residence is 57 Commercial street, Aberdare! Thank you again

There is another brother! This is Edward, Ann, Daniel and Thomas on 1861: Ann Williams abt 1824 Mynydislwyn, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Mynyddyslwyn Monmouthshire Daniel Williams abt 1860 Mynydislwyn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Mynyddyslwyn Monmouthshire Edward Williams abt 1825 Lynedem, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Mynyddyslwyn Monmouthshire Thomas Williams abt 1858 Mynydislwyn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Mynyddyslwyn Monmouthshire Edward is a plate layer Address looks like Tyla Cottage

Thank you, here is the info on the marriage cert: 17 jan 1889 William William aged 25 yrs a Bachelor, profession Coal miner at 57 Commercial Street, Aberdare fathers name Edward Williams (deceased) father was a platelayer. William Married Elizabeth Owens aged 21yrs a spinster, no profession lived at 47 Woodland Street, Mountain Ash fathers name was David Owens (deceased) his occupation was a Coal Miner. They got married in Siloa Chapel in Aberdare.